LOSTCasts 18: One of Them

This latest podcast focuses on season 2 episode 14 of LOST, One of Them. In this episode, our guest host Matt Jones joins us to talk about Sayid's backstory, the conflict between Jack and Locke, the "Other" Henry Gale, Wizard of Oz connections, the Egyptian hieroglyphs that display on the timer and much more. In addition, we talk about the recent hacking of Lost-forum and Lost-media, some spoilers and what's next on LOST.

Download podcast #18 here

Here are some links related to this podcast:
Character connection "chart"
Wikipedia entry on Wizard of Oz movie (1939)
Wikipedia entry on Wizard of Oz book (1900)
Speculation about Henry Gale on The Fuselage
Screencap showing balloon picture in hatch
Wikipedia entry on Hieroglyphics
Screencap of hieroglyphics on timer
One translation of hieroglyphics
Link to updated "Ultimate Theory"

If you want LOST spoilers, visit Spoilerfix.com.

Got any thoughts about this latest episode? Post a comment here on the site, send us an email or record an audio comment on our automated voicemail by calling 206-666-2278.

Remember, we don't get a new episode of LOST next week. We've got to wait until March 1. In the meantime, Matt had a great idea that we can talk about during the break... What is it you like about LOST? Why do you watch it? What makes it interesting?

And I promise, I'm gonna cut down on saying "um" in future podcasts. Thank you toastmasters.

Stay LOST.

Comments

[Henrik]

Hey! I've been waiting for hours for the podcast!! Make sure the link gets fixed or I'm gonna go crazy. Need my Lostcasts!!

[John]

Sorry... just updated the link!

[Tarrant Jon Lines]

god, i needed this podcast! ive been thinking loads about this episode, and been checking the site every hour for the podcast!
oh, finished downloading, see you in bout 70 mins! great job!

[Henrik]

Thanks, finally I get what I've been waiting for since Wednesday!

[Tamara]

Please don't spend any time recapping!

[Henry Hill]

I won't balk if you devote time to recaps, but if you do, please keep it at a minimum. There are other podcasts out there that do recaps and do it well.

I listen to this podcast for the hard core analysis you guys do so well. This podcast might jump the shark if it started to focus on recaps and other segments that you are not currently doing.

[Jennifer Cochran]

I agree with Matt. Maybe a LITTLE recap, but nothing huge. We like you the way you are. :) (Plus, we've probably all watched the show at least once already!)

[John]

It seems we have a consensus on the recaps... none, or keep it to a minimum. Loud and clear.

[Emily]

Umm.. about your house of games connection. I think if the writers had the intention of continuing with that story line, isn't it true Sawyer coned Kate?..So I believe the revenge will come from her NOT Cassidy. I don't think Sawyer would still be conning people he "cared for" if she got her revenge. That's it for now.

Oh, if You do recap maybe you could do a 5 minute recap separate from the podcast. Maybe it'll cause problems, but we would have the choice of listening in.

[Ty]

A few months ago, there was a lot of talk about a link to a site called https://bigspaceship1.com (the "s" after http is important.) At the time it showed some morse code and polar bear pictures and other really obscure stuff. Later, around the time of the "23rd psalm" episode, it simply said "smartdust." But now, it opens up a PDF file that appears to offer the guide for decoding the heiroglyphs we saw at the timer. It's about 18 pages long and very technical, but it does seem to offer the guide for the glyphs. I highly HIGHLY recomend you guys look at this.

[Cobblepot]

In regards to your comments regarding Rousseau showing Sayid Henry Gale:
On the fuselage in the ask the creative team section, specifically ask javi section, Javier says that She did as a kind of peace offering to the losties, to gain their trust, make a mense

[Amber]

Seriously.. would anyone really miss Jack if he died? I think he just frustrates the viewers! hehe

[Lostaway]

Hey Guys,

Thanks for yet another great podcast :)

Also, i thought that post on the fuselage showing the painting of the ballon was VERY interesting. You`re probably right about the usual suspects kinda idea.

[Cihan]

Thanks for another great podcast, kept me entertained while travelling around London in the rain.

1] No recaps! I like your podcast because you dont rehash stuff we already know.

2] I really liked the analysis of sci-fi over the past decades and how Lost comments on current day events, especially for Americans in their 'post 9/11' era. The Guardian website also had an interesting article commenting on the pilot before it aired in the UK, unfortunately I cant find the article.

3] I also like the thought that Cassidy had a hand in setting up Sawyer to kill the wrong man in Australia (it is feasible she would continue a life of conning and learn more tricks and eventually learn about her nemesis and his weakness) and inadvertantly sending him to the island.

[Lauren]

Great podcast!! PLEASE DO NOT waste our time doing a recap of the last episodes. There are PLENTY of resources for those who missed the newest episode, and most of us who listen to your podcast have watched the newest one more than one time. Thanks, and I was wondering if you think people back at home are still looking for the plane.. or if they've assumed the losties died. Because if it's a government-supervised test (Dharma, Hanso, etc), then the government would have told everyone that everyone died.

[Jeff]

No extra recap please!!!!!!!!!!

[Brittany]

No recap or keep it under 60secs please.

[Fitz]

no one needs the actual recap when you talk bout the episode for over an hour, great woork thouhg

[Loren]

I defintely vote for no recaps but on another note, did any of you realize that the army dude who spoke to Sayid at the end looked and spoke an awful lot like Zeke? It didn't really look like the same actor, but I thought the similarity was worth noting.
As usual, great podcast! Keep it up!

[Dru]

I don't know if anyone have mentioned this but do you think there's any connection between "LOST's" Jack Shephard and "Grey Anatomy's" Derek Shepard (I know the spelling is different)? I bring it up since Grey's Anatomy is on the same network as LOST.

It'd be funny/coy to see Jack Shephard on Grey Anatomy.

[Chiara]

eep, i'm having trouble downloading it, it keeps saying that it's either been removed/deleted. am i the only one having trouble? i tried updating it through itunes but it also won't. :( i need my lostcasts fix!

[Amanda]

I'm having trouble getting it from itunes. It's saying the file may be corrupted or itunes canot read it.

[Nathan T-Smith]

Fix it please need my lostcast for the week,

[Mark]

Hey guys good podcast this week. I just wanted to say that Lost-Media and Lost-Forum are back up and running. The so called "hackers" were foiled once the webmaster returned.

thanks

[Mindy]

I can't download your podcast #18. I think there's something wrong with your link.

[Raz Minder]

I believe libsyn (the host site for their podcasts) is down right now - there isn't much they can do.

[rnr]

No recaps. Or at least keep it supershort, or maybe you could post a recap on the site instead of including it in the podcast? I listen because I want to hear analysis of a show I already watched, I'm not interested in hearing an overview if something that I just saw.

[Karen]

Just wanted to say thanks for another great podcast. I particulary enjoyed the discussion of Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle -- I'm inspired to go back and read it again.

And I agree with the consensus about the recaps. People who listen to this podcast don't need them.

[FreshCHUD]

Did you guys notice that the CIA dude that firced Sayid to interigate the CO didn't really need him, at the end of the episode, he spoke to Sayid in his own language.

[Kyle]

Please, for the love of god, no recaps. If you feel that you absolutely must include one, please keep it down to 60 seconds.

[Emily]

Loren,
I was thinking the same thing! I wasn't going to bring it up here cause i didn't have any pictures. Not the same actor, but that was my original thought. From the vest, to the beard, to even the age, I think this guy is Zeke.

Um, I was also thinking they might have called him Mr. Friendly knowing he was fairly kind to Sayid in his Flashback (They would have known this, by the time they Zeke's episode)

[Inta]

One of my favourite epsiodes so far!

Check out http://lost108fm.blogspot.com for more discussion on this episode!

[John]

Matt-the-replacement:

Dude, YOU'RE NOT FUNNY. You're not even mildly amusing. And you're certainly not very clever. In fact, you're downright annoying. Hopefully you never "sub" again because that will be the next time I don't listen to this podcast.

You would think that not being a regular on the show that you would speak only a little, or at the very most "half" the time. But my God, all you did was try to talk...talk over John...add little comments that you obviously found amusing but no one else did...talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk.

And the way you explain things, sucks. You're fucking horrible. Hopefully you're not a teacher because otherwise there are some 4th graders out there losing out on their education.

Please don't laugh at your own jokes or go to the complete other extreme and make everything an overly dramatic "deadpan" joke. A. You're not funny. B. You're voice is annoying. C. You're not funny.

Hopefully the podcast goes back to normal next week.

[Blinder]

Easy John,

Recordings rarely translate personality and tone in an accurate way. It takes some time to get acclamated to it. But trust me, Matt is funny; although I do agree he should never teach 4th graders for a whole other set of reasons.

While it's a bummer you didn't "get" Matt, It's good to be missed even if it the sentiment comes as a shot at our guest host. But fear not, Robert and I will be back on the next cast.

And when that time comes be forgiving, we're not even pretending to be talk radio pros here.

Later.

[Matt Jones]

John,

I'll be the first to admit that I have a monotone voice, tend to ramble, and think I'm more amusing than I actually am. I can't help it. Just like you can't help being cunty.

I feel like I brought some good stuff to the table, but I could definitely work on my presentation style. Upon further review I probably did talk over John a little too much and dropped one too many lame jokes. If I'm ever invited back I'll try to tone it down. But, keep in mind I was trying to fill the shoes of two giants in the field of LOSTcasting so it's not surprising that my efforts paled in comparison.

[Cihan]

Woah there, it wasnt that bad jeez. There's a difference between criticism and taking the piss, know what I mean? I thought Matt was fine. Started out shaky, but like Blinder said it takes time to get used to speaking on a mic knowing loads of people are going to be listening around the world. I thought Matt did bring good stuff to the table, like I mentioned above I liked the talk about TV sci-fi during the past decades, I found it interesting. I didnt sense a huge drop in quality so to the LostCast crew, dont worry about anything and keep up the good work.

[Kevin Garnett]

Hey John, you need to settle down bro. Go get a girlfriend to take your mind off of LOST and these podcasts for awhile man. If that doesn't work, try downloading some of those other horrendous podcasts out there like the Jay and Jack or Generally Speaking. That will help you get an appreciation for just how good Matt-the-replacement was.
Matt, don't let it get you down man, you did fine. You got to expect some off the wall messages from the 90% of guys writing on this site who still live in their parent's basement and attend monthly Star Trek conventions (myself excluded of course, due to my NBA commitments).
On a more LOST related note, I wish everyone would stop getting out of control with all this Henry Gale = Kaizer Soze theory crap. I guess it is possible that this Henry Gale character was trained at the MENSA institute to jam a super computer worth of information into his brain and that just the sight of the balloon picture on the wall brought to mind the EXACT dimensions of Steve Fossett's "Solo Spirit". . . but more likely is the possibility that the writers of the show simply researched to find out information on how to explain the background of a character like this, and wrote that information into his lines to make it believable. I love these guys on the message boards with their, "obviously Henry knew about the Solo Spirit (and thus must be an other)" garbage logic.
In addition, I am not buying the theory that Henry must be an other because he doesn't have a Minnesota accent or that he stumbled over some of his answers. Unless you have met someone from Minnesota who has been held hostage by a crazy French lady, shot in the shoulder with an freaking arrow, and almost beat to death by a crazy Iraqi who just broke the news that he is "a torturer," then I don't think you have enough credibility to say that he is faking it. I thought the writers wrote the scene very well and didn't give a lot of hints away. I think Henry really is an "other," but that has more to do with the faith that the writers wouldn't waste 2 episodes in an effort to simply paint Sayid as emotionally out of control. Think about it. They only have 10 more episodes this season. They got to get it moving sometime.
Anyway, before a draw comparisons to Angry John, I will sign off.

War the ghost of Ethan returning to kill off Charlie!

[Chiara]

http://www.youtube.com/?v=ZERKddEdoSU
"brokeback island" - a jack/sawyer parody, so great. if you guys haven't seen it already, please check it out, it's definitely worth your time.

[Matt Jones]

Kevin Garnett on fire! Not bad for a guy that didn't go to college.

I agree that we have very flimsy evidence to suggest Henry Gale is an Other. It's more of a gut feel. And like I said in the cast, the very fact most people think he's an Other means he's probably not. These writers love the swerve.

I still fall into the Henry is an Other camp. I think that he did come to the Island in a balloon, but he's lying about the time frame. Which fits with my belief that the Others are an amalgam of Dharma workers and various castaways that have wrecked on the Island over the years. Now this pokes a hole in the Usual Suspects theory because why would he need the picture cue if he really piloted a balloon? But, the Kaizer Soza theory holds some water because the writers have shown that they aren't above borrowing plot devices (House of Games).

As for the Minnesota accent, I agree. What was he supposed to sound like? William H. Macy in Fargo? (Yes I know that was set in North Dakota, but all those pasty bastards up there sound the same.)

Anyway, thanks for the props KG. I'll tell Dirk to go easy on you the next time the Mavs beat the T-Wolves. We’re tight like that,

[Ali]

No recap!!!!!!

love you :)

[Randalicious]

I would have to agree with the gut feeling. Just the way he answered the questions, he didn't seem very sincere. He seems like he's acting scared, not genuinely scared. And it almost seemed like he was reciting the answers from somewhere. I'm not sure if he is an "other", but i don't think he's telling the truth either. He doesn't seem very confident, skilled, strong enough to be an "other". If he was an other i think he would have been smart enough not to get caught, or run and get shot by an arrow. He's lying, but he's got something else to hide.....

[Blinder]

Remember, Rosseau managed to snag Sayeid with the double trap. He stepped over the trip wire and right onto the net hoist thingy. And Sayeid ain't exactly a babe in the woods.

And who is to say that all the others are strong and skilled in the ways of the jungle (avoiding jungle traps)? It's possible this guy comes form the more science side of things as opposed to Zeke's apparent role in security. It's possible this guy is an outcast form the others. It's possible he's a free radical like Matt said in the cast, And I suppose it's possible that he intended to get caught to do a bit of spying. Whatever the case may be I'm doubtful that this captive will be hanging around long enough to be figured out.

[sher]

Hi guys,

Great job on the podcast. I came over after the demise of the Transmission, and your podcast has been great.

To answer your question about whether to do an episode recap: I would like it, but only for the weeks I miss Lost. :o) If you could somehow make the podcast have chapters like the Transmission, that would be fabulous. Then I could just skip the recap if I don't want to listen, or I could listen if I need to.

Otherwise, I think a short or no overview would be nice.

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