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rubycalaber

What the hell, Sawyer is actually in a... a... skin... what the hell...

Ryan

Thanks, guys, for including our book review!

For what it's worth, I think the only two things Adewale got picked up for were driving without a license and disobeying a police officer (and the latter can basically get slapped on you for grumbling too loudly). From what I know, it's hardly in the same ballpark as DUI.

Oh, and ironically, Michelle and Cynthia were pulled over for driving too slow that night, not too fast! It's the other castmembers who have lead feet.

Part of it? Most of 'em are used to driving in L.A. Folks in Hawaii can be a bit pokey on the road, so a California native definitely stands out in traffic.

Cameron

Perfect timing. I just got home from a half marathon here in Sydney and there is a podcast all ready and waiting! Who could ask for more?

We even ran past the place where there is the supposed bar in which Saywer and Jack's father were drinking!

adam!

i hate to be the guy doing this but... the book is called "Watchmen", not "the Watchmen", as repeatedly pointed out by the authors way way way back in the 80s. "Watchmen" isn't supposed to be a superhero group name (like JLA or XMEN), but more as a metaphor as to what the characters are supposed to be.

at any rate, hey! new podcast!

Cameron

Excellent podcast and fantastic to hear Matt Jones again. Lostpedia is indeed a great source for LOST junkies, but a word of warning: don't try to search for 'Lostpedia' on 'Wikipedia'. Why, you ask? Well, it seems that not even Lostpedia is 'sufficiently notable' to be referenced on Wikipedia. Their entry was deleted recently as well. Hmmm.

Seth

Another great episode, gys! It confirmed my suspicions about the quality of the extras on the seventh disc, and I certainly haven't been in a rush to buy this set, although I probably will eventually

I disagree somewhat with your concensus that the block of seventeen episodes in the spring might suffer from a lack of feedback. This may be true, and the show's popularity may suffer from it. But ultimately think it will result in the show staying true to the creators' vision.

This is a conundrum that has faced artists--writers, painters, sculptors--since the beginning of time. How much do you tailor your craft to the tastes of your patrons, who are after all paying the bills, and where do you draw the line on compromizing your creativity? While I can't cite any hard-and-fast examples from LOST, my impression of the last few episodes of season two, exciting as they were, is that the producers listend too much to feedback and criticism, and the show got pulled in too many directions that didn't quite work.

I recognize that one of the things that makes LOST great is the level of interaction between its creators and its viewers, and the level of viewer participation that elicits. But I'm looking forward to seeing what the creators come up with, even if it turns out to "jump the shark."

Anyway, I can't wait for the next round of podcasts, and especially for the season three premier. Keep up the great work.

John

Great thoughts Seth... yeah, I was thinking out loud more than anything. I guess one of the things I've really enjoyed about the show is how responsive they have been to the fans. I just don't want to see that diminished.

AVDJ

How cool is it to hear from Ryan and Jen?! I watched the Sawyer clip and I am so excited about the new season. Thanks for your efforts with the summercasts. You did a great job.

Matt Lafferty

I had the odd experience of listening to the podcast last night and falling asleep partway through (no offense, I was just tired!)... EITHER I dreamed up a spoiler, or heard one and didn't know it until I woke up. As an anti-spoiler person, I can't be sure until new episodes; I'll listen to the podcast again but, of course, will stop when you guys reach the spoilers. Odd.

Another observation as I've been rewatching season 2: During "Maternity Leave" in the Medical Hatch, the lovely widescreen presentation shows that there is an "Escape Hatch" in the hallway--its about 16 minutes in, when Ethan takes Claire from the exam room to the cutesy baby room. Also odd. I think it's an episode worth reviewing, anyway.

Can't wait for the skypecast guys! I'm very much looking forward for the debates to start a-ragin' again on here (like how the Pearl Hatch wasn't the question mark hatch :P)!

Whatever

Awsome podcast. I think this may make you laugh if you haven't seen it already:

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3706184123465518467&q=lost+%22season+3%22

taylor

Yay, new podcast! Am listening to it now and am so happy to get some more LOST fix before getting into S3.

FWIW, found this on YouTube yesterday...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD-_osc-0fg

Vaibhav

Hey.. great podcast guys...
This is Vaibhav from India... I came across your site while searching for the "Official Lost podcast"... gotta say yours is much better :) though Cuse and Lindelof can be pretty funny...

We are actually just half way through Season II here but mainly due to you chaps I ended up rushing ahead and watching all the episodes in a bunch...

I have been listening to your podcasts for the past month (just like the show... heard it all in a rush all together)... its been great fun... in fact the trouble is that now that i've caught up with you guys, waiting is gonna be a pain!

I have 33 podcasts worth of comments but i'll let them be for now... For the present... I might have missed it but I don't think you chaps mentioned another of the promos for season 3 which has Jack opening a door and getting flooded by a torrent of water... almost like the other side was "underwater"... pretty interesting eh?

Regarding people getting bumped off... well, Lost is a character driven show really... so I don't see how it would be good for any of the people to get bumped off.... Shannon and Boone were "Abandoned" by the writers who have repeatedly shown how creative they can be when they want to be... so its not like any of the characters are boring its just that some need to be made more interesting....

Coming up later... my ideal opening sequence for Season 3!

guest

Could that guy Ryan's voice be anymore annoying??? My god, he sounds like he's doing a cheesy game show host's voice but I guess that's his actual voice!

Curt Yanko

Hey guys. Great show as always. I have Skype up and running and will try and make the skypecast for some LPN representation.

Kathy aka Fangirl

This occured to me after listening to the last podcast. You mentioned the thing about Apollo candy bars having psycotropic drugs in them. Wouldn't this explain why Hurley might have seen Dave? I mean Hurley had a few of those candy bars. Kate might have split one with Sawyer to get his sugar up and that would explain them both seeing the horse. Just a thought.

Matt Lafferty

Interesting idea, Kathy. I personally keep thinking back to the comment that the creators supposedly said about us having seen the monster and not knowing it... it's crossed my mind that perhaps the horse was it. It's a tenuous link, I know, but it's just so darned out of place. Other "visions" can be explained--Jack's dad from Jack's exhaustion, Dave from Hurley's mental condition, and the insistance by some that the Pearl was near a question mark. (Okay, that last one was me just being playfully meanspirited!)

May I suggest to everyone who's rewatching season two to pay close attention to Henry (I guess that's kind of a "duh" comment, but bear with me.) Knowing what we know now about him allows for a lot of retrospective conjecture: I think he was genuinely surprised that the hatch was found, and many of his questions ("what's the computer for") and comments (something along the lines to Ana Lucia like "Wow, you walked across the island? What was THAT like?) to be VERY probing if we assume he knows certain things--like what the computer is for and what is "out there" across the island, be it the monster or the bare-footed possible second band of Others.

17 or so days to go!

Derek

Hey guys, absolutely love the podcast, but I was a little shocked that you guys didn't mention the commentaries in your review of the DVDs... they reveal some nice tidbits, or well, I should say confirmations, like one of the sounds of the monster (the one that's like "cha-chook cha-chook" is the sound of a New York City taxi cab printing a receipt. Or how the Pearl hatch is really the center of the island, so there should be no more doubts (or more elaborate reasonings to change things) if that is indeed the question mark from the blast door map.

Mark B

As ever a great podcast, clearly the best avaliable. I was hoping for a nice review of season two but alas I'll have to watch the DVDs.

Totally agree about the 7th disc it was pretty dull. Last years extra stuff was much better. The flashbacks were almost totally unenlightening, the bloopers weren't that funny, and even the Saawyerisms once played out of context seemed somewhet lame. Matt (I think) mentioned that seing how they made scenes ruined the 'illusion' and this was exactly how I felt.

As for the season schedule I would have prefered six episodes and a shorter break (say 3 weeks) followed by another six then another short break and another six and so on. I read/heard somewhere Fenry was only scheduled to be in the show for two or three episodes but cause of the fans reaction he was kept in it for longer. Not sure how true that is and it rings of the 'their making it up as they are going along' theory but if it is true then I can't see how that will happen in season 3. I fear we really are entering the potential 'jump the shark' season and that 13 (?) week break whilst not actually being the killer may put enough people off to make Lost less attractive to ABC and we'll see Lost moving days/times ... and we all know what happens then. As has been said before Lost is not a formulaic show (like House, ER, etc) so can only attract new viewers who are either willing to be, if you'll pardon the pun, 'lost' for a while or have watched the DVDs in the off season. Given season 2 will have been out for 3 weeks or so that means someone wanting to watch will have needed to watch an episode a night to catch up (plus season 1 beforehand). I'm not sure how many people have that kind of time. I had a bad day in the office and don't want to be the doomsayer -- personally I can't wait for season 3, 4, 5, 6, and the zombie season 7 !!

I'll try and skype in.

Mark B

rachel_in_sg

Thanks guys for the summer podcasts. Actually I'm dreading Season 3 (for selfish reasons) as I'll be left behind again! I'm considering downloading Season 3 as it won't air for another 4 or 5 months here in Singapore. But meanwhile, I'll get my Season 2 DVD and watch 1 and 2 all over again.

Preston

Hey Lostcast! I kinda took a few months break from everything LOST during the offseason but I'm back now and I listened to the podcast last night at work and I loved it!

It got me all excited for the new season again, I'm planning on watching the whole of Season 1 again this weekend and then Season 2 next weekend.

Thanks for the podcasts guys, as a massive LOST fan this is such a great show!

Jon W

This is where it sucks for listeners in the UK, the time difference is bound to cause a delay, Ah well, Im sure you guys will have a blast, looking forward to it!!!

WeakLemonDrink

"This is where it sucks for listeners in the UK, the time difference is bound to cause a delay, Ah well, Im sure you guys will have a blast, looking forward to it!!!"

Not really! We're, what, 6 hours ahead of central time? Even if it's the full 8 hours, it'll still be early evening for us. Perfect!

Jon W

True, but some of us have to work ;-) Nevermind

Cameron

Just 6 hours, that's nothing. Try being 16 hours ahead of central time!!

For those who are interested, there are some fantastic bits of information being added to spoilerfix every day. I won't put the details here as I know some people like to avoid spoilers. If like me you want to know everything, go check it out.

Matt Lafferty

The skypecast definitely should be a fun event, and I'm glad to hear that WeakLemonDrink and Cameron have their calendars marked!

And please oh please don't forget my prediction: in as-unseen past, Locke had a baby in his life. That's why he was paternal with Walt (the kid he never had, in a way), concerned with Aaron, and knew about swaddling.

Loren

Matt,
i love the 'locke had a baby' theory. He did get a very strange look that first time Claire asked him if he wanted to hold Aaron. Of course, i've over-analyzed the 'looks' before. Maybe Locke hurt his legs trying to save his child from something or other, but his child died and he was paralyzed. That would make Locke's injury even more tormenting for him. Just a theory for your theory.

Anyway, I'll try to be at the Skype cast, I'm looking forward to it!

13 days!

Kathy aka Fangirl

I'm going to try to make it, but there is a podcasting expo going on that day. If I go to the expo on Friday, I can be late on Sat and do the skype. All depends on if the boss will okay my vacation day. *fingers crossed*

Big Al

the actor who played Marvin Kandel (don't know how to spell kandel) was on some show about 9/ 11 on the discovery chan. Think it was called "Inside the Twin Towers"

Hamish

Forgive my technical ignorance, but will the SkypeCast be recorded and subsequently podcast?

Looking forward to the combination of LostCasts and JayandJack - 'twill be like charcters from one great TV show wandering on to the set of another.

Now there's an idea - what odds that Sydney Bristow parachutes in to the Island before the show is over?

Ryan

Sounds like you guys are going to have a full house! But I hope I'll be able to make it, too, along with Jay and Jack. It'll be 6 a.m. here in Hawaii, but our kids have usually dragged me out of bed by then anyway. It's also the day of the sneak-preview season premiere in Waikiki!

Kathy aka Fangirl

I think Sydney should show up in the background of a Mr. Ekko fashback. That seems the most logical place for her to make a cameo.

Matt Lafferty

Loren,

EXACTLY! The "Locke had a baby in his life" theory could easily work into why he was paralyzed... I mean, does anyone REALLY think we're going to get a flashback episode where the two goons that Locke's dad conned come along and break Locke's legs/back? To predictable... also, to my mind, Locke is the only one with a serious question in his background: why was he paralyzed? Sure, some characters have unforseen zingers in their past, ala Rose and cancer, but episode 3 of the whole darn show showed him in a wheelchair--and we don't know why!

Matt Lafferty

Hamish,

Just happened to click on the skypecast page, which now says "Note - this skypecast will be recorded and distributed as a podcast."

As for the potential for an Alias crossover moment... why not have Sydney in Sydney? :D

Taylor

Not sure if anyone else has seen these, but I was over at Barnes & Noble yesterday and saw a series of four LOST puzzles that claim to reveal secrets about the island once you put them together...has anyone else seen em? Are they podcast worthy?

Loren

Haha, I got a little confused when I visited the site today because of the different layout, but I really like the new LostCasts logo!
And maybe I'm missing out on something very obvious and/or very important, but who is sydney?

Jon W

Is this our grand re-design of the site we have been waiting for, nice job guys ;-)

John

It's not the "grandest" redesign in the world... mostly just the logo, but I'm just making changes as I go!

Jon W

Well im not complaining, I kinda like it, makes a nice change. Was that Listener Map on last time? I never noticed it before..

Matt Lafferty

Derek,
Whereabouts on the DVDs do the producers say that the Pearl is the Question Mark? I'd be interested to hear them say it... I've been a proponent since day one that the Pearl is NOT in the center of the island (of course, I also believe that our beloved producers sometimes playfully mislead us by telling teensy untruths, so I reserve the right to not believe them once I've heard them say it!).

Loren,
Our blabbings about Sydney are decidedly unimportant (though it would be cool if they did a flashback crossover moment)--she's the Jennifer Gardener character from Alias, which was created by JJ Abrams as well. By the way, for anyone that hasn't seen Alias, its a very fun, very mindscrewy show... something to rent/buy when we have our massive 13 week break from Lost.

Jon W

Im dreading that 13 week break, It just painful that we know that it will end with a monster cliff-hanger. It's going to be torture

Matt Lafferty

Jon W,
Ohhh how right you are... it's going to be a very tough break to have. I mean, six episodes into season two, Shannon was alive and the Tailies had yet to merge. It'll be worth it come winter, though.

Having just finished season two again, a few thoughts:

The torture of Henry is much more topical than I thought, in light of the recent debate in the US concerning gaining information from captured terrorists by way of torture. I wouldn't call Lost overtly political, but it is interesting that, in a literal sense, the extended torture of Henry might have resulted in a much different course of events, i.e. Libby and Ana living, etc.

Though the accidental nature of the plane crash isn't new news since last spring, I'm also struck by the randomness of the crash. As season two unfolded, there were a number of fine theories about the "predesination" of those on the plane: that 815 specifically was loaded with people specifically meant to crash. Clearly, taking Desmond's accidental system failure at face value, then the survivors are a truly "UNspecial" for having crashed. This may be contrasted by the Others, who presumably are there for a "special" reason.

On the DVDs, reference is made to Locke being represntative of a "pagan" religious background (praising the forces of nature) and Eko being, obviously, of a more godly and formal religous background. I'm no expert on pagan religons, but I do find it interesting that the whole discussion about faith in the button is essentially one of faith in God as opposed to faith in nature; having "purpose" in life, I think, would come from God. Clearly, the show comes down heavily in the short term in favor of faith in purpose and/or faith in God, with the button being real. Now if Locke's lack of faith ends up leading to Penelope rescuing everyone... then is perhaps the show commenting negatively against religion somehow?

Lastly, the zealot nature of the Others has me thinking post-9/11. Generally speaking, the damage that our survivors have caused to the Others is excusable; the deaths of Ethan, Goodwin, and those killed by Ana and Eko at the beach were self defense. However, for the others to claim being "the good guys" after hanging Charlie, killing Scott or Steve, and showing a very brutal outlook on the survivors, seems to be in line with the conservative outlook that many people of many religions have had lately. To this end, while many of us have talked about there being a "switcharoo" with the Others (that the crash survivors really do end up being the bad guys), I don't think this will ultimately be the case. The survivors of 815--a plane crash which echoes 9/11-- were "the world," in that they represent a mix of races, nationalities, and religions.

Hhmm... terrorism, predestination, God, zealots, and 9/11. Not too bad for a show about sweaty attractive people living on a beach!

Carl, UK

Hi everyone, Found this on Youtube, does anyone know if this has anything to do with Lost, if you play it you have to keep watching. some guy runs in and starts talking about hanso, i just wanted to know if this was set up by the people who make lost or its fan made.
Keep up the good work john anf everyone
Carl in the uk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFumLxfslzc

Loren

Carl,
That's definitely a Lost Experience video. I haven't been following it except for the really big things like the Sri Lanka video, though, so I can't tell you much more than that.

Matt,
The mention of Locke's 'pagan' faith kind of puzzled me a bit, too. I appreciate your thoughts there because I've never viewed Locke as pagan, just faithful. I just thought there were some interesting word choices on the DVD there. Thanks for exploring that a little more. :)

Also, I had a few random thoughts (that I think have probably been mentioned before) that occurred to me while rewatching season two. Nothing important, just some observations.

My friends and I always used to joke that CPR always works on the island. It worked with Rose, Charlie, the little boy on the tail side, etc. In reality, CPR really doesn't work that often, but it occurred to me that perhaps CPR would be more efficient on the island because of the 'healing abilities' there?

I also used to be amused by the dramatic rain storms that always came about at just the right moment. But, in rewatching, i thought maybe the rain really did come at 'just the right moments'-- whenever the losties entered the dark territory. Maybe the rain is somehow part of the 'security system' and a warning to stay out?

And on that note, I will throw out this theory again: I really think that the smoke monster and the whispers are the same thing. In the quote that is always mentioned, we are told that we've seen the smoke monster more than we think. While I also agree that the horse, etc are other appearances, I think the whispers are probably an audio form of the whispers. I mean, why would a whole bunch of the Others gather around in a big circle and whisper to the Losties? I think thats a bit impractical. That would also explain things like the sudden disappearance of Cindy. The whispers were heard and Cindy vanishes without a sound or trace. She could have been pulled into a hole (like Locke almost was) by the smoke monster.

Just some thoughts.

Jon W

I like the concept of the rain being manipulated like that, I didnt think the Lost writers would employ such obvious dramatic features without it going deeper. This is what cracks me up, after the the 23rd psalm episode, whenever I mention 'the smoke monster' to my non-lost watching friend he always pokes fun at how corny the name sounds. At first I dismissed it as a joke but come to think about it does sound a little bad, Wouldnt it just be easier to refer to it as Cerberus and spare the kinda hiding in your closet monster image.

Jon

Matt Lafferty

Loren,
Love the theory that the whipers are related to the smoke monster--I can't help but notice that whispers have an intangiblity in an aural way similar to how smoke is intangible in an visual way. Also, great comment about how "dramatic rain" might be related to the security system. Perhaps Ryan or another Hawaii native could comment on how frequent showers are on the islands?

It's really nice to see things starting to heat up again on here!

adam!

Perhaps Ryan or another Hawaii native could comment on how frequent showers are on the islands?

but the story's supposed to be set around/near/south of the Fiji Islands, which makes it roughly near Malaysia and Australia, not Hawaii...

adam!

Perhaps Ryan or another Hawaii native could comment on how frequent showers are on the islands?

but the story's supposed to be set around/near/south of the Fiji Islands, which makes it roughly near Malaysia and Australia, not Hawaii...

nice site redesign!

re: "dramatic rain" -> i seem to remember the losties alluding to the rain being always somewhat "in schedule" (mainly by Locke, i think, in the first season), coming in at a specific time more than being triggered by forays into the jungle.

To this end, while many of us have talked about there being a "switcharoo" with the Others (that the crash survivors really do end up being the bad guys), I don't think this will ultimately be the case.

i think the writers would want to leave it grey. it has been (shakily) established that DHARMA/HANSO were/are doing the things that they do in order to save the world, and it's not too much of a leap to think that the Others (albeit somehwat abandoned by the initial financiers/supporters) are continuing the island research work that DHARMA/HANSO started, maybe even improved the methods and reasons as the years passed by. we only (as of season 2) know of the lostaways' side of the story, so normally our sympathies would be for their plights, and what we know of the Others we only know through the eyes of the lostaways, but i think once season 3 gets up and running, we'd be given a more sympathetic take on the Others (and their reasons for doing what they do), maybe a cold and clinical and somewhat joyless take, but a sympathetic take nonetheless, and thus, muddying up the show's morality a bit.

and for some reason i still believe that fake Henry Gale is still a subordinate. i think we've yet to meet the real man in charge of the island research.

re: time on the island -> i remember bringing this issue up somewhere in the comments section, about the series' time period (2004) not synching with the LOSTexperience time period (present day), and how the LOSTexperience's lack of mention of any 815 survivors seems to indicate that LOST will end badly (or for the better) with the lostaways not really finding (or maybe even choosing not to find for) a way out of the island. and then, of course, lindelof and cuse toss wrenches into everything when they mentioned that (maybe, just maybe) island time is slower than the rest of the world's (maybe because of the presence of a large EM in the island, theoretically slowing time down to a crawl, like how it's supposed to be along black holes' event horizons), but then i remember Rachel Blake (in the official podcast) alluding to the fact that the LOSTexperience is happening in OUR REALITY, and that LOST (the show) is a mockery of the "evils" of DHARMA/HANSO perpetrated by Abrams and Lindelof and Cuse, a statement which, if taken in face value, undercuts our hopes/anticipations of ever solving LOST (a fiction in both our and LOST experience's reality) through the LOSTexperience (another fiction, although set as our reality)... damn. i can't wait for the third season!

Matt Lafferty

Adam!,
Uhh, yeah... good point, that in the world of the show, they're not in Hawaii. That would be my bad. I was thinking that perhaps the show gets unexpected rain (which I'm sure it does from time to time), but that doesn't necessarily translate to the "dramatic rain" we're talking about. (Geeze, we're debating rain. Hurry up new episodes!!!)

As to a sympathetic view of the Others, I agree that their story will be told, and that it will be compelling and somewhat sympathetic, but I still think that ultimately the show will present them as extremists meant to be metaphorical of the extremism in our world today.

As for your comment that you think Henry isn't THE Him... after the season finale ended, I would have completely disagreed with you. After watching the season finale again, I completely agree with you--no reason, other than I simply didn't get that feeling again. Maybe The Him will be Higgins from Magnum PI? ;-)

Lastly... indeed, nice site redesign John... clean and simple.

adam!

"Maybe The Him will be Higgins from Magnum PI? ;-)"

hehe! well, i for one am going with the "Kyle Maclachlan is Him" theory!

seriously, though: i bought my mother a season 1 & 2 LOST DVD combo, which she watched through and through for a week. i asked her what she thought about the fake Henry Gale being "Him", and she said that it was pretty unlikely, concluding that "he might be the guy who's in charge of the project in the island, but unlikely if he's the main boss, because things just don't work out that way", meaning that big boss men don't tend to do the grim and gritty rough research that the fake Henry Gale seemed committed to doing. and yes, i know what you mean when you said you simply "didn't get that feeling".

being bedridden because of the flu, i've actually dedicated myself to relistening to your 30-odd LOSTcast episodes, and find myself smiling and laughing periodically from the sheer enthusiasm and verve and interest and geekery and brains you guys constantly put into each 'cast. great, great work. you actually made season 2 LOST more interesting for me. thank you, thank you.

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