Get Ready: The Glass Ballerina

Sorry for the delay in getting the "Get Ready" post up. I normally do this right after the new episode airs, so we can get all your great comments in one place as we prepare for the next podcast.

It's great that LOST is back in full swing, and we got another new episode last night, The Glass Ballerina. We'll be podcasting this weekend about this latest episode of LOST, and talking about the Sun and Jin backstory, Sawyer and Kate's "chain gang" experience, as well as talking a little bit about what we've learned of their captors. We'll also be talking about the ambush attempt that Sayid, Jin and Sun attempted, and we certainly have to talk about the developments with Jack and Ben. Has Ben really lived his whole life on the island? Do they really have connection with the outside world? Will Jack cooperate? It's just the tip of the iceberg, folks.

I'll be out of town, so Robert will be podcasting with a familiar voice, Brian. You knew he'd be back, right? Get your comments to us by posting them here, sending us an email or sending an audio comment via our automated voicemail at: 206-666-2278.

Stay LOST.

Comments

[Fish Biscuit]

Didn't really notice any clues or easter eggs in this episode. Anyone else?

[JB]

Pretty good episode. I think we see a few more insights into Sawyer as well as Jin. Sure he was a street smart con-man, but the way he confronted the Others and the things that he found my that confrontation, speaks of some deeper training somewhere.
This is way out there, but could it be that Sawyer was working for some other US government agency, and that Kate ended up being another one of his cases and he was there without the Marshall's knowing. He ends up falling for her, so he has to keep up the charade. I do not think that is the case, just throwing it out there.

I think we got some good insight into Jin. I think he knows what Sun did, even though it was evident that Mr. Clean did not tell him. I like him more and more with each episode.

Lastly, as everyone else, that was classic with the Sox. Can't wait until next week.

[Carl, UK]

Just a thought, but the fact Mr Clean had the pearls in his hand... was he trying one last time to get Sun to runaway with him, did Sun push Mr Clean to his dearth? just the way on the boat the woman said 'your not a killer' maybe the others dont know everything?

There seems to be a little theme with 'Pearl'
1, Bernard wanted to give Rose some pearls.
2, The Pearl station
3, Mr Clean holding the pearls

I thought this was a good episode, No one seems to be talking about when Sun was young, she showed she is not to be trusted,

1. She cheated on her husband,
2. The baby is not Jin's
3. She learnt to speak english...

she is not a good person!

[Joni]

I have lots of questions! Any thoughts?

Anyone think that an offer was made to Kate, one similar to the one made to Jack? --Maybe she knows she is going to have to betray Jack and Sawyer. Could explain why she acting so weird.

Either Jin doesn't know about the affair or the affair was a while before the crash. Otherwords, he wouldn't be so happy about the baby.

And is Sawyer so dumb that he thinks they aren't monitoring them??? Or is it all part of the con?

Any ideas on what is going on with Alex and Karl?

[Mark B]

Bad episode, very little happened, very very slow…. I can’t believe that people are saying this was a good episode but I bet people are wondering how I think it is a bad one. I think it was probably one of the worst episodes ever. This was the inverse of last week’s episode very little happened at all until the last 5 mins. Lost has lost 5 million viewers and I think most left cause Lost was too complex. Now I think people will leave because it’s too slow and too dull. They have six episodes before the 13 week break and they serve up this ....?

What happened/ what we learnt;
1. Sun lies. But we knew that already.
2. Sun slept with Mr Lee. But we suspected that already.
3. Jin has some conscience, there is a line he won’t cross. He won’t kill someone he thinks shamed Mr Paik and by implication Jin himself. I seem to remember finding out Jin was not all bad before. I don't think Jin knows Mr Lee slept with Jin, if he did I think he would have killed him.
4. Mr Lee killed himself. Or did he ? I think he did – the pearl necklace indicates to me that he did. Why would someone else put the necklace in his hand ? And how would they know it’s significance.
5. Sayid is rubbish at special ops, he didn’t think that the Others would go to the boat first. Duh ? The Others probably thought all three were on the boat or had been watching/seen Jin/Sayid hiding in the trees. But then he wasn’t exactly a great commando in the fake village.
6. Jin understands more English than we thought and he can handle a gun. Surprise surprise. He been hanging about with English speaking people for two months and Sayid and Suns expressions and body language shouted that they were hiding something.
7. Sun will shoot someone (though perhaps it was an accident). Though Colleen’s not dead and Jack will save her. Jack will probably use this to get something – to get to see Sawyer/Kate I’m guessing.
8. The Others know Sun’s name. So we are to assume they know everyone.
9. There are some other people who do the same tedious rock moving job as Kate and Sawyer. Who are they ? Where are they from ? Why are the Others getting people to move the rocks ? Just to break them (K-S not the rocks) ? Looks like some pointless mind numbing task to me. I bet later the Others will get them to move the rocks back.
10. Sawyer doesn’t think ahead and realized he should have given the water to Kate.
11. The tazers have a safety on or could they have no effect on the Others. More Superhuman stuff ?
12. Sawyer can handle himself in a fight. Some of the Others can’t. Sawyer is smart and is planning an escape.
13. Kate is useless in a fight. She must have done nothing other than let Juliet pull a gun on her. Very un-Kate like. I would have expected her to get stuck in. Unless of course she’s been turned already.
14. Sawyer and Kate are a couple, or as good as.
15. They have been on the island 69 days. It’s Nov 29th 2004. If Ben is to be believed.
16. The Red Sox won the World Series in 2004. If Ben is to be believed. Perhaps Dharma staged the Red Sox win 8-)))
17. The Others DO have contact with the outside world or at least get satellite tv.
18. Jack can last an entire episode without crying. But Mr Lee cried so I guess that’s ok.
19. Ben watches and hears everything.
20. Benjamin Linus (or Lynus) has lived on the island all his life. Is there anything in this name ?
21. If Jack does something he can go home, if we believe Ben. Ben appears to be a man of his word, he let Micheal and Walt go (or did he ?) But what does Jack have to do and will he do it ? I don’t think he’ll leave without the rest of the Losties.

According to the official podcast which I think contained quite a few ….. SPOILERS FOLLOW ……
1. Karl is an Other and the attempt escape was real. We’ll find out more about him before the end of the sixth episode.
2. They implied we would get Others flashbacks, but not for a long while.
3. They implied Sun and Mr Lee were seriously involved and had ‘done the business’.
4. There are other Others in other places but they are all the same group.

Sorry to have gone on soooo long.

Mark B

[Mark B]

Oooops item 3 should read

I don't think Jin knows Mr Lee slept with SUN, if he did I think he would have killed him.

Mind you Mr Lee sleeping with Jin would have added something.

[I_Love_Sayid]

So it looks like the map I used last weekend is upside down...but I think it should still make sense (as soon as I get a chance I'll redo it and see if it works.) Either way, we now have an exact location for the Pala Ferry. Thanks for drawing right onto the map Sayid!
http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?album=1181&pos=14

[Kathy aka Fangirl]

Not sure if any of you are Buffy fans, but there was a nice reference in there. Sawyer says "You taste like strawberries," which is from a Buffy episode in Season 6. A warlock says it to Willow I believe.

[Mr_Hurley's Food Stash]

19. Ben watches and hears everything. Only where he is?!

How come Ben had no idea about the sail boat? Desmond had been on the Island a while and the boat was being repaired by Inman (This would have taken some time). However, the 'Others' must have known about Desmond, but they couldn't know where he came from.

This opens up a question about past information on characters, like with Jack last week. Do they pretend to know his life, or just use what they know from things they find on the Island? i.e. Things they find on the plane, from conversations ect? They are obviously trying to manipulate Jack now, and they'll use whatever to do it, last week his life, this week TV.

We have fractions in the others, and from this (Desmond's sail boat) we know now that the others don't know EVERYTHING that is happening on the Island.

Okay episode, but it's just the start, plus when I saw next weeks preview!!!!

Mr_Hurley's Food Stash

[kitten]

I have a feeling Michael got the same pitch as Jack got in this episode -- do what we tell you, and you'll get to go home. Probably saw the same Sox video and everything (the game was on Oct. 27). Seems to me that Jack may take the bait and turn against everyone the way Michael did -- or at least make the Others think that he's turned. We'll see.

[Trevor]

I may be way off but I believe I detected a trend in the names of the Others last week after the bookclub opening. Do the Others' names have some sort of alphabetical order? We typically only hear their first names and they seem to be primarily from the first part of the alphabet (perhaps ala Adam & Eve) and don't repeat. Here are the names I've noticed so far:
- Adam (bookclub creep)
- Ben
- Colleen (shot by Sun)
- Danny (guy who beat Sawyer)
- Ethan
- Goodwin
- Juliet
- Karl (cell escapee)

We don't know Ms. Klue's first name as yet and Alex Rousseau wasn't originally an Other. Of course there's also Tom.

It may be nothing but thought it was worth a mention. It seems a bit creepy and could be part of the whole cult-like community they have going.

[Helena]

http://green-queen.livejournal.com/587899.html

[I_Love_Sayid]

Mrs. Klugh's 1st name is Beatrice

[I_Love_Sayid]

Remember when Benry acted all scared and confused while the blast door was going down. He was locked in the armory, out of site, and still pretending. We were all thinking that he couldn’t be a higher-up other because he doesn't know what's going on... but he did ;)

I think a man like Benry, with the possibility of having allot of enemies, would prefer to stay aloof. Maybe he’s afraid to let his own crew what he knows and doesn’t know…especially if there’s descent within the ranks. My bet is that he knew about Desmond and his sailboat and possibly set up the whole senario.

[Matthew Denham]

Great episode, changed my perspective on Sun big time. Also, because of this will we see an others funeral, because this might give us an opertunity to see the full scale of how many others there are.
Did anyone else find Colleens comments very interesting before she got shot. Simular to Ben's, but she is just the muscles of the operation so I'm starting to believe that there is a bigger enermy on the island, maybe the smoke monster, and that they are recruiting from the losties. They are currently testing their resolve and strength I think.
Also, Alex is quite obviously dating Karl, whether he's an other or not. Sawyers a bloody genious, tests out the enermy and gets a kiss in one motion. Also, is Tom the front man because they won't miss him. He's an awful shot and isn't to good at hiding his emotions.
Ben is a legend, that actor needs a raise. Sorry all these comments are randomally put together. I'm thinking as I type.

Thats all for now,

Denzy

[Katerina]

Haven't contributed in a long time. Am wondering last year there was a place you could go where they had detailed screencaps of all the episodes. I can't seem to be able to find the link. Can anyone help me? Trying to see if one of the two men Sarah was seen with in S03E01 is her ex-fiance from S02E01. Tx a bunch.

[I_Love_Sayid]

@Katerina
I know of 2 great places for screen caps - lost-tv.com and lost-media.com.

[daviboy]

Hey guys, try googling "benjamin lynus" and see what you get. At the top of the page will be a link to "Hansoadoptions.org". Pretty interesting clue.

[Kathy aka Fangirl]

Do you think that maybe they made Kate the opposite offer? She seemed pretty freaked when we saw her being put in the cage. Maybe they said help us or we'll take you back and give you right over to the feds.

Also, another reference I noticed as Ben teasing Juliet about the soup the exact same way Cyper teased Trinity in the Matrix.

[Kathy aka Fangirl]

Davidboy:

At the bottom of the main page, did you click on the empty space where it says Copyright by HansoAdoptions.org (____)-2006 - All rights reserved?

Creepy....

[daviboy]

Wow! Kathy aka Fangirl. I totally missed that. A Dharma logo with two fetuses. Maybe the "others" are trying to create their own "special baby" like Walt. The others failed at kidnapping baby Aaron and now Kate maybe their only option at a new baby.

[Drynn_03]

I am going to agree with Mark B, which is good because it saved me typing most of that.

I will say I was not as disappointed with this episode as I was with last weeks but it is still just any other drama on tv at the moment. I am hoping next weeks episode brings back the Island as a character. I am jones'n for the paranormal that has been glaringly lacking these last 2 episodes.

A couple things on this episode I thought stood out.
1) Benry looks more and more like a Ratman every week..
2) I think the others have Sawyer and Kate figured out, and are using the tactic that Sayid was planning for the others..
3) I don't think they are sure on how to handle Jack, I believe that they think he is a country club doctor and are trying to break him with intellect and thinking he wants back to his way of life. I have a feeling that Jack is going to suprise them in how little he resembles a Smart Doctor who misses the material things and I think they are going to do this with his thailand flashback...
4) I am really liking Juliets charactor, Sawyers comment on her was just more icing on the cake..

That being said, we are a third of the way through the mini-season, overall it has been lack luster at best and can confirm 2 people I know who have now stopped watching lost because of it. I know it is going to get better, I just hope it gets better before they start showing Daylight in it's place.

[Jack+Sayid=DurtyIslandLuv]

Wow a great episode again. Even better than last week.

A few observations.

-Sun has mysteriously lost her Korean accent when speaking English.

-Lee definitly killed himself. That's why he had the necklance in his hand. End of story.

-It looks like Jack will cut a deal with the Others, and I think Kate already has.

-I don't think the Kate/Sawyer love story is happening. This kiss is a misdirection. "Where is Jack?" she asks. Kate will choose Jack.

-I think the most significant part of the epi was the short Alex cameo.

What was up with Alex? She looked like she had gotten a perm, a facial, and a spa treatment. She was better dressed and better groomed than the Others. If she's left the Others camp -as seems likely- how is that possible? Has she defected to the other Others? Is there a group of renegade Others? Where do they live? Another village? Another Hatch? Did she visit the real world?

Alex has always been different from the other Others, now I think representitive of a whole different group (so far consisting of her and carl) The two groups of Others theory lives on.

-Anybody else think Sun's transformation into a lying, murdering, bi#ch was a little too hard and fast? I loved the flashback scenes, but on the Island Yun Jin seemed a little too eagar to get out of her submissive role. Totally an acting thing and totally forgiveable, but a little funny.

-Red Sox moment, funnist moment in Lost ever.

-Why can't the Others leave the Island? Is this like Star Trek where holodeck charecters can't leave the holodeck?

[John]

Speaking of not commenting in forever...that be me as well. I didn't listen over the summer, so if the story has already been mentioned, my advance apologies for requested repeat. But what happened to Brian? And why the hell do we have to listen to Matt Jones in every single podcast now? This sucks!

[ursinha]

hi, i agree with mark b. i love the show, but it is moving too slow...especially with all the hype about answers. i am not giving up, but i just want that great magic that was present in the earlier episodes. i promise not to complain about this anymore! i did love when sun shot trixie from deadwood.