LOSTCasts 57: Greatest Hits

This latest podcast focuses on season 3, episode 20 of LOST, Greatest Hits. In the podcast this week, we talk about Charlie's backstory, Jack's plans for confronting the others, Charlie's new fate revealed by Desmond and the reveal of the underwater hatch, the Looking Glass.

Download podcast #57 here

Links related to the podcast:
Episode ranking from Darkufo
Lostpedia entry for Greatest Hits
J. Wood on Greatest Hits
Screencap of Nadia in alley
The Looking Glass logo
Wikipedia entry for Through the Looking Glass
Screencaps of Looking Glass station maps
Screencaps from inside Looking Glass station
Greatest hits theories from Lostpedia

LOST links:
All 12 DHARMA station logos

Next week is the season finale of season 3! We won't be podcasting the weekend following the finale, but the next weekend.

Until then, Stay LOST.

Comments

[Lance]

Woohoo first comment.

Thanks for the podcast from over here in the UK. You guys are great ;)

[xandra]

Yay,thanks from Poland:) I'm glad you put it up earlier,I can still listen to it tonight!Great podcast!

[biolite]

Oh man...I have to go watch spongebob now!

[idjk]

A reminder as always:

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This includes discussion on promos.

[Kadayi]

Yay....love that it's up early (UK again) ;D

[Petos]

Great cast dudes! I'm going to be suffering Lost withdrawal symptoms again ahhh!

[black_eyed_dog_90]

Ok this might work - it's a who do you think will die poll

http://www.polldaddy.com/p.asp?p=41752

[black_eyed_dog_90]

ok if this doesn't work I'll stop clogging up the site with my crap

[Justin (AKA Locke Junior)]

Please note on this Lostcasts episode there is a spoiler at: 19:30 - 19:50 (next time on Lost), I want to point this out as it's not in the regular spoiler section. Damn you for not editing it out!

[David]

FFS DO NOT refer to "Next time on Lost" in the main podcast! Normally you do a good enough job of leaving it to the end, but this week I'm not watching previews or anything for the finale. You mentioned one thing and I let that go, mentioning another point about 14 minutes from the end was not cool.

[Justin (AKA Locke Junior)]

CORRECTION: There is another spoiler (next time on Lost) at: 29:30 - 30:10, tread very carefully! These are classed as spoilers, whatever you say!

[Justin (AKA Locke Junior)]

@David

I can't tell you how disappointed I am with Lostcasts about these 2 spoilers, the last one is quite a critical one. Why don't you wait until the correct segment!!!

[Justin (AKA Locke Junior)]

WHEN YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE PREVIEW ****YES**** YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SPOILERS, WHAT MAKES THIS FUNNY IS THAT THEY HAVEN'T INCLUDED A SPOILER SECTION, SO FOLKS DON'T LISTEN TO THIS PODCAST IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE SPOILED!

[frankmorris]

Good cast, interesting Lewis Carol stuff, won't complain about the *minor* spoiler leaks...I disagree that the swan was the station keeping the island hidden. The island is still hidden & the Swan is gone. Yes, it was confirmed that Desmond turning the fail safe caused the island to be seen, but I think the huge magnetic discharge effected the systems in the Looking Glass, turning the sky purple & making the island visible for a moment.

[Loney]

They did NOT say that the people and animals are Smokey. Watch it again. Yes it was after the part about Smokey, but it never said they were the monster, you're guessing that. But it does confirm that they are all connected and island related.

[jg]

Subject: Others/factions
I believe the factions/rifts in the Others are becoming apparent.
1) DHARMA-Others( Ben, Mikhail, ?Looking Glass chicks?)
2) other-Others
a) Black Rock survivors
b) Natives
c) 'Recruits'
d) ?'s
Tom and Richard just let Locke pummel Mikhail (Ben's bro)

[Tahir]

Thanks again for another good podcast.

[sam]

you guys wanted one, so I got one!

Heres the link to the poll about who will die: http://www.misterpoll.com/2069379637.html

Heres the link to the message area where everyone can chat it up!!: http://www.misterpoll.com/message.mpl?poll_id=2069379637

enjoy and VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!

[Chris in Oly]

Great 'cast, despite the 'next week on Lost' stuff.

Re: Is Rose the Next Locke

If Rose's cancer healed so quickly, could the segment showing her and Bernard be setting her up to be the next Locke?

If Bernard is killed or captured, this would set Rose to be on the path to save him or at least oppose the Others.

It seems unlikely they killed Locke - but if they do it would be interesting to see Rose step up.

[AutoFill]

I am not usre if it was a good thing that we got the warning about the mid-podcast spoilers... I kept taking off my headphones everytime you guys mentioned "next week".. feeling strangely unfulfilled!

was expecting a much longer podcast anyway...

btw, I think its been officially clarified that the brunnette in the LG is not Cassidy...

[jg]

Subject: Looking Glass
I am really buying the LG as a portal.
So, what if Charlie learns he is now off the coast of Bermuda.

[jg]

ooo... wait,
Charlie is now at 48.15 degrees west, 16.2342 degrees north

[Stop your bitching]

Seriously?!

No one forces any of you to listen or contribute to this podcast. If the guys want to discuss what happens in the "Next Time On LOST" preview, who are you to tell them not to?

There are so many pussies bitching and complaining on here anymore. If you don't want to listen, then don't.

[Loney]

I think the LG may be a portal too. I mentioned that as my chaos theory on the getting ready for thread.

The more I think about it, the more I'm believing it.

[Tommy T]

Great podcast guys, and again thanks for posting it early so us UK folk can get listen early :D

I really appreciate you not mentioning spoilers this week, whether in a section at the end of the podcast or not, so I'm not even tempted to carry on listening.

RE: "Next time on Lost" - I don't personally watch it, so it would be great if that could be done in a section before the final spoilers section, so again, people could listen to that but then stop before 'proper' spoilers. (For us UK folk who download our episodes early, "Next time on Lost" is cut from the end so I'm not even tempted to watch it.)

(p.s. 'Stop your bitching' - this podcast is created for the fans, by the fans, and they haven't come this far by not listening to their listeners. I'm not expecting them to change their ways just because I say so, just to listen and have a think about things - like they have done in the past. These guys do a great job, for free, and asking them to think of things in a different way is not out of line.)

[WebMonkey]

Great Podcast guys, but i find its always better when all three of you are there.
Liked all you points about the LG station.. The portal ideas are pretty gripping.
I've listened to this podcast from the very beginning, and have been waiting for you to get a real forum.. Its the perfect platform for you to get a quite large place going... so cant wait to see if the comes about, as i'd be a regular.
(In the mean time,if any UK fans wanna a place to chat about the show - head to www.lost-tv.co.uk/talk).

Keep up the great work. WM

[Mark B]

Great cast as ever.

Don't think the spoilers were that bad. I mean on the first one John says "Next Time on LOST" twice and the second time he says it again once and there is plenty of notice that it's going to happen. I'm not sure how hard it is to add chapters to the cast but that maybe an option to look into.

Anyhow I don't buy the whole not seeing Desomonds flashes because TPTB don't want to show Claire in a helicopter, I think we don't see them except when it's Desmonds episode. We did not see Charlie drown saving Claire, or getting the bird or being struck by lightening either.

I've always liked the idea of a message board but this site has always been way better than the Fuselegae becuase it's so much more manageable.

As for the off season, after that long break, (I heard LOST will restart 6th Feb which is 36 weeks away - almost enough time to have a baby !), I like the idea of a theorycast, a book review cast and maybe a LOST related movie cast as well as revisiting the IGN Top 50 LOST questions from last season or the Fuselages Long Lost List.

Double bad news this week, Heroes and LOST both finish. Nothing else worth watching on tv really .... Any news on the Season 3 DVD release date yet ?

@Sam : nice poll.

[karen - san antonio]

just a thought, but if the swan was so important to keep electromantic field held down from causing a world explosion - that world? or our world? then when it did get stopped, what stops it from doing that still? on top of that if it was so important, why leave a man down there alone for so long, would he not go nuts!
just doesnt add up for me..

[Experiment 626]

Here's an interesting observation (made by my brother) about Desmond's flashes -- all of his previous flashes have been of events that he would have been in position to personally witness. If that holds, wouldn't that indicate that he would be in The Looking Glass and see Charlie drown?

I don't think Charlie is going to die. His willingness to suck it up and do the right thing (foreshadowed by his coming clean to Sun a few episodes back) will be rewarded. I think.

SSB

[Joop]

Hello?...John Locke?...the guy in the ditch?

We know there will be an attempt at being rescued in the finale & it has been underscored that Locke doesn't want that to happen. I think he will pay a big part in the 'game changer'...just a guess.

Joop©

[Experiment 626]

Joop --

I agree. I believe there will be a confrontation between Jack and the 815ers and Ben and his group. Ben will order them shot -- and he won't be obeyed. I think this was foreshadowed when Tom and the rest refused to stop Locke's beatdown of Mikhail. I think Locke will show up -- if he comes in at the point where Ben and Jack are having a standoff, then many of the Others, if not all of them, will stand with Locke. Otherwise, Locke will show up for a solo showdown with Jack.

SSB

[frankmorris]

@ Experiment 626

Your brotha makes an excellent point about Desmond 'remembering' flashes involving Charlie, were events he witnessed first hand. It should be assumed that he must be in the looking glass at some point rather than being a spoiler.

[biolite]

RE: DEATH!

I'm afraid to say I think Ben won't survive the finale. It's become pretty clear that his role among the others is begining to disintegrate. He may not actually die but if he dosen't he'll end up by himself in the jungle with no allies.

I really hope Charlie dosen't die in the end. He's annoying yes, but he's no where near as annoying as Claire :P Charlie is one of the more interesting characters and I think his survival at the end of Greatest Hits is a hint that he'll make it.

RE: The Looking Glass

It would be interesting if the chicks in the Looking Glass were from Dharma but not the original Dharma. Ben told his people that the Looking Glass had flooded. Maybe Dharma is trying to re-take the island and infiltrated the Looking Glass, repaired it, and are using it as a staging point in retaking the island from the Others(hostiles)

Just some thoughts. Can't wait for the Finale!

~Biolite

[Burnt72]

I was reading the new issue of Wired magazine, and they had an article in there about hypothetical scientific theories based on Star Trek - particularly regarding how real teleportation would work, which would be thusly:

You break apart a unit of matter, and then rebuild it completely... but, - you could potentially rebuild a unit of matter without breaking apart the original unit - in this case, you create an exact double of that unit...

I'm thinking, this could be another explanation for all of the bodies found in the crashed 815... what if the entire plane was teleported, and the plane that lies at the bottom of the ocean contains the discarded doubles - that's how you get to the island....

[chris in oly]

@karen - san antonio

In looking at the Swan Hatch, the only thing that made sense to me was:

-DHARMA found wierd natural magnetic phenomena.

-DHARMA built a hatch to control it, study it, but consequently screwed up the natual phenomena.

-While the hatch still existed, if the button was not pushed DHARMA's hatch would have destroyed the world by disturbing the natural phenomena.

-Now that the hatch is gone, the natural phenomena reverts to it's orginal state. While not necessarily benign, possibly not so harmful.

Now in the Questions and Answers recap episode last week they indicated the Swan Hatch was DHARMA's 'most important project.' In the Lost Experience Game, (which I did not play, and I am only repeating stuff others have said) they had an expirement that they thought would save the world by changing an mathematical equation that predicted the end of the world. So the conclusion I make is that the Swan Hatch did something to the outside world by discharging/pulsing the magnetic energy from the hatch every 108 minutes. (This is psuedo science, not real science after all).

Now that this is not being done, the planet Earth is back on it's path to destruction. Dum dum DUM.

[chris in oly]

@Expirement 626

Great call on Desmond seeing the flash forwards in person at the future time. That puts a spin on whether Desmond knew about the hatch being guarded and was lying to Charlie or not.

It also means he should have made 2 weight belts...

[jg]

Science Fiction tie in?
Given the obvious indication of the MOON POOL does anyone really know anything about this book?
http://www.sfsite.com/07a/mp107.htm

[Mark B]

New OLP is out ....last one for a while.

[sam]

you guys wanted one, so I got one!

Heres the link to the poll about who will die: http://www.misterpoll.com/2069379637.html

Heres the link to the message area where everyone can chat it up!!: http://www.misterpoll.com/message.mpl?poll_id=2069379637

enjoy and VOTE!! I'll post the results everyday until the finale.

So, here are the standing right now
Others:
Tom (21%)
non-important others (21%)
Ryan (17%)
Ben (12%)
Juliet (8%)
Bonnie (7%)
Gretta (7%)
Richard (3%)

Losties:
Charlie (28%)
Bernard (14%)
non-important losties (10%)
Jack (9%)
Sawyer (6%)
Desmond (6%)
Rose (4%)
Jin (4%)
Naomi (4%)
Sayid (3%)
Kate (3%)
Sun (3%)
Locke (1%)

[scott]

Random Heroe's rant:

What a crappy finale... Claire couldv'e shot peter & nathan didn't have to die - heck, anyone could've shot him. Or Peter could've flown away by himself... what a stupid ending... Here's hoping LOST won't disappoint

[Mark B]

HEROES SPOILER WARNING

@Scott

My thoughts exactly ....... and the whole Sylar crawling into the drain was totally s%^t. Next season looks wierd though .... but based on that cheesy Claire and her Dad et al piece I'm not sure watch it.

[Drederick_Tatum]

Or even Nathan could have flown over the ocean and dropped his nuclear ass off. I'm done with Heroes. Such a wasted opportunity.

Even when Lost is at its worst it's better than pretty much anything else right now. I'm pumped.

[Brian]

I will admit to not reading the thread for fear of being inadvertently spoiled. But after listening to the podcast I feel the need to voice up about this Looking Glass station being the physical portal to the island. It doesn't make sense.

Why? THE PLANE. They didn't pass through any looking glasses. Now, you could say, "the system failure caused the portal to widen, and the plane flew into the portal." That's quite the stretch, but Naiomi crashed, and there was no system failure. The Swan was gone. You have to jump through too many logic hoops to say the LG is a physical portal.

I stick to the idea that the LG is just shielding the island from the outside. Not unlike Mulligan's city in Atlas Shrugged.

[Brian]

Okay, so I read a little. Put me on the list of "mildly annoyed due to inadvertent spoiler leakage." Don't they make a pill for that?

Anyway, I was less than enthused about knowing the flashback situation for the finale. But its no biggie. I'd say you're allowed a slip every now and then. I'm more annoyed WITH THE volume ISSUES.

[Roxanne]

Do you all think that the looking glass is where Ben sent Michael and Walt? Just an idea! thanks!

[JackedupLockedown]

Preparing for the finale almost 100% spoiler free

Thanks to Justin for posting the warnings about the Lostcast.

In regards to Lostcasts; over the past few months I have been listening to some of the Lost Podcasts and I have got to say that even on their worst day any combination of John, Robert, Matt Tasha and Brian is way better then most of the rest.

Jay and Jack are pretty solid. I enjoy their cast but I don't get nearly as much out of it as Lostcasts. They seem the most like real radio talent to me of any of the casts.

GSPN Lost podcast is at times unbearable. If only the hosts were half as funny as they seem to think they are. And as for people who complain about having to do a podcast, stop.

Dharmalars is medicore. They seem knowledgable about the show but they spend so much time off topic and it's never interesting.

Blackrock is inconsistent and production quality is among the worst. Content wise like I mentioned it's hit or miss. It is however tolerable and has fewer nails on a chalkboard moments then the rest

All about Lost is just beyond bad. It's like a couple third grade talent show contestants are hosting.

The OLP is far and away the best but I guess that is to be expected considering it is their show.

Only 32 hours until the finale

[JackedupLockedown]

Preparing for the finale almost 100% spoiler free

Thanks to Justin for posting the warnings about the Lostcast.

In regards to Lostcasts; over the past few months I have been listening to some of the Lost Podcasts and I have got to say that even on their worst day any combination of John, Robert, Matt Tasha and Brian is way better then most of the rest.

Jay and Jack are pretty solid. I enjoy their cast but I don't get nearly as much out of it as Lostcasts. They seem the most like real radio talent to me of any of the casts.

GSPN Lost podcast is at times unbearable. If only the hosts were half as funny as they seem to think they are. And as for people who complain about having to do a podcast, stop.

Dharmalars is medicore. They seem knowledgable about the show but they spend so much time off topic and it's never interesting.

Blackrock is inconsistent and production quality is among the worst. Content wise like I mentioned it's hit or miss. It is however tolerable and has fewer nails on a chalkboard moments then the rest

All about Lost is just beyond bad. It's like a couple third grade talent show contestants are hosting.

The OLP is far and away the best but I guess that is to be expected considering it is their show.

Only 32 hours until the finale

[JackedupLockedown]

Preparing for the finale almost 100% spoiler free

Thanks to Justin for posting the warnings about the Lostcast.

In regards to Lostcasts; over the past few months I have been listening to some of the Lost Podcasts and I have got to say that even on their worst day any combination of John, Robert, Matt Tasha and Brian is way better then most of the rest.

Jay and Jack are pretty solid. I enjoy their cast but I don't get nearly as much out of it as Lostcasts. They seem the most like real radio talent to me of any of the casts.

GSPN Lost podcast is at times unbearable. If only the hosts were half as funny as they seem to think they are. And as for people who complain about having to do a podcast, stop.

Dharmalars is medicore. They seem knowledgable about the show but they spend so much time off topic and it's never interesting.

Blackrock is inconsistent and production quality is among the worst. Content wise like I mentioned it's hit or miss. It is however tolerable and has fewer nails on a chalkboard moments then the rest

All about Lost is just beyond bad. It's like a couple third grade talent show contestants are hosting.

The OLP is far and away the best but I guess that is to be expected considering it is their show.

Only 32 hours until the finale

[jackeduplockedown]

Okay seriously I only posted that once

[hazydavy]

teleportation theory:
ok i know its sci-fi but if you try to rationalize this as scientists do i agree you may be able to re-create a unit of matter but how does one re-create your thoughts, your personality, your memories?
also, the photocopy theory exists...where a copy of a copy is never the same quality as the original.

[frankmorris]

Re: the Heroes finale, I thought it was good, I mean why start using logic NOW to analyze the show? It's only Heroes after all. Why expect a Citizen Kane ending to Cannonball Run?

A few predictions for Lost finale (far superior to Heroes):

Setting up Bernard as dead eye Dan & putting him into the fray seems very telling...bye bye Bernard.

In 'Flashes' the cricket bat sends Desmond back to 'real time', now he's had a boat oar to the head...well it's a Jack centric episode...maybe another viset from Ms. Hawking.

[Mark B]

Re: Heroes finale
Sorry it was rubbish. A huge cop out, up until that point I was clinging on to it as a decent show with a few plot holes. When the little girl (who looked enough like Annie to make me wonder) said about not thinking about the REALLY bad man I thought hello here comes season 2 but then Sylar crawled away (had me thinking Mikhail post fence) and then that idiotic thing with Peter and Nathan -- Nathan redeeming himself (think any dead Lostie).

Re: LOST finale and other things
1. Bernard may as well have pulled on a red shirt and set his phaser to stun.
2. Des and the cricket bat happened in his 'flight back in time' and I don't think the whack to the head sent him 'back to the future' rather I think he then went on to do follow exactly the same life as before. Joining the army etc. and so ended up back on the island in the same state as before becasue he follwed the same timeline after that point.
3. Interestingly (or not) I'm still not sure if Charlie 'singing in the rain' was not the same time as what we saw in the Des flashback but that was an alternative timeline as Des was trying to get out of the one that Charlie was in. Not sure if that made sense.

[frankmorris]

Well, here's to a great Lost finale, I'm sure it wont disappoint.

[elaine]

I don't think that the day Charlie 'saved' Nadia was the same day that he 'met' Desmond. I recall that when it started raining on the day Desmond was there, Charlie didn't get the chance to put his guitar away in it's case, on the day he met Nadia he definitly did. It rains a lot in the UK, I don't think that we can deduce just by the fact it's raining that it's the same day :)

[chris in oly]

Re: Day Charlie Saved Nadia Different from Meeting Desmond

Yeah, I agree with Elaine. They showed screen shots of the two events and Charlie was wearing different clothes. So, it was just different days. He just a busker on the same street corner on two rainy days.

(Or Desmond changed the past and no longer encountered Charlie, and since the past was changed Charlie was wearing different clothes. Harder to follow.)

[lostlostperson]

LOST SURVEY RESULTS

Why is Ben a leader if he was "recruited" by the already existing "hostiles" community?

He rose to become the leader: 40.2%
Richard gave power to him: 22.5%

What is the purpose of the "Looking Glass" station?

To deal with radio signals 47%
Research marine life 21%

Why did the Hostiles attack DHARMA?

They want the island to themselves 18.4%
They are trying to keep the secrets of the island 64.3%
They are "hostile" people 3.1%

Why did Jacob say, "Help Me"?

He is being trapped in the home 80% 80
He dislikes what Jacob is doing 6% 6

What will happen in the Finale (the big reveal)

Penny will speak to Charlie or Jack 27.6%
Rose will be revealed to be DHARMA 6.1%
The island is in a 'snow globe' 5.1%
Walt will appear 61.2%

What do you think of Season Three?

Awesome! 57.4%
Great 28.7%
O.K. 11.9%
It can do better 1%

[Nash]

I mentioned this Lost game a while back for T-Mobile users, but now it's available for the iPod:

http://www.twogianthamsters.com/2007/05/lost-video-game-for-your-ipod.html

[sam]

Heres the link to the poll about who will die: http://www.misterpoll.com/2069379637.html

Heres the link to the message area where everyone can chat it up!!: http://www.misterpoll.com/message.mpl?poll_id=2069379637

enjoy and VOTE!! I'll post the results everyday until the finale.

Which Others will die on LOST:
non-important Others (25%)
Tom (24%)
Ryan (23%)
Ben (8%)
Juliet (7%)
Bonnie (4%)
Gretta (4%)
Richard (2%)

Which Losties will die on LOST:
Charlie (20%)
non-important losties (14%)
Bernard (11%)
Kate (10%)
Sawyer (10%)
Naomi (8%)
Desmond (7%)
Jack (5%)
Rose (3%)
Jin (3%)
Sayid (2%)
Sun (1%)
Locke (0%)

[Mark B]

Re: Day Charlie Saved Nadia Different from Meeting Desmond ?

I think it may be the same day and it's all different because Des changed the past he was in. Reasoning ....

1. He does not remember Charlie from before and neither does Charlie remember him. They never realy met as Des changed the past.

2. The sticker on Charlies guitar is a hint.

[rok]

sheesh, i'm on the fence as to whether "next time on lost" is a spoiler or not, but the echo chamber in here is amazing, with a couple folks repeating themselves over the same stuff. seriously, chill. they have gotten better about not spilling the beans in the previews, AND the previews are usually taken care of before the first commercial break anyway. i don't recall a vote ever being asked for, but if there is, let me throw in my two cents and say "next time on lost" is fair friggin' game. when clips are shown to multi-millions of people on freely accessible public airwaves and available from a network web site, how could you NOT consider that public domain? i've seent he trailer twice, and i still think there will be PLENTY in tomorrow night's episode to keep me enthralled.

oh, and as far as heroes (major unrelated segue here), anticlimactic, maybe. but total crap, no. and i wish they would have explained this better in the series, because it's left a lot of people annoyed about the death of nathan... peter never ever EVER could use two powers at once. never. he never flew while invisible, or healed while using telekinesis or any of that. so he had to get flown out by nathan. nathan couldn't let his own daughter be the one to kill her uncle. simple. now the sylar escaping, and somehow no one noticing? VERY "no one dies in comic books" style there.

[JackedupLockedown]

RE: Heroes

I watched the first half of the Heroes season on DVR a couple weeks ago and the second half on the sci-fi marathon this weekend and then the Finale last night. Personally I think it's garbage. Bad writing, bad casting, worse acting. Now I am the type of person who enjoys a grand total of three network TV shows (Lost, Office, Survivor) and despise the rest but still. I am surprised how much crossover there is from Lost to Heroes as I see one as a lame dumbed down version of the other.

Anyway just thought I'd be negative for a minute there. Something tells me the Lost finale will have me singing a different tune.

See y'all tomorrow after the show

Jackie

[Reality TV is Killing Story Driven Shows]

Wow Jackie, Survivor huh? And I used to have so much respect for your opinions.

"Reality" TV has dumbed down the viewing audience. Good shows get canceled left and right because bubble gum TV like American Idol and Dancing with the Stars has taken away the imagination and attention span of the audience. There were so many well written shows that got shit-canned this year. Kill "Reality" TV before it kills you.

[jg]

ummmm...Jeopardy...is Jeopardy OK?

[Long time listener]

Love your podcast, been listening since about 1/4 of the way through last season. One of you guys mentioned complaints about the volume issues you sometimes have (one of my few criticisms of your excellent work).

Not sure if you're aware of it, but there's a free product called the Levelator ( http://www.gigavox.com/levelator ) available which does a very nice job of evening out the volume. I've used it for some recordings where the volume varies quite a bit and has a lot of background noise, and it does a great job of making loud and soft sit together in an understandable and useful way. Once installed and started, it's a drag-and-drop affair.

Just thought I'd mention it in case you weren't aware of it. Keep up the great work.

[JackedupLockedown]

@realitytviskil.....

I don't think you can lump Survivor in with those shows, maybe season 1 and All-stars but certainly not beyond that.

Survivor is "reality" TV, it was the original in the genre and the best. The rest are a freakish mutation. Idol and the like are not reality. They take every aspect of reality out of the contestants hands.

I have enjoyed Survivor from the start because it has an amazing way of doling out almost instant karma. Plus it provides people with real motivation thus pushing them to their true limits, morally, physically and emotionally. If you enjoy learning how people really work, it's excellent TV.

Look most people who would show up on a Lost forum are going to dislike Reality TV. I am not exception.
However as far as them ruining TV I disagree, shows that people watch stay on the air shows people don't watch go away. Yes the fact that reality TV is uber-cheap to produce makes it easier to greenlight a show but ultimatley it's up to the people and sad as it is the people have spoken. They want dumb.

The number one complaint I hear about Lost is that it is too confusing. The majority of people would just rather not use their brains when they watch television. It sort of stands to reason, if you are engaged all day at work why would you want to come home and watch something that exhausts your mind. To me it's exactly what I want, but to the masses it's just too much no matter how well written.

To me the CSI's of the TV world are the worst thing on TV. Predictable, tired, self contained plots that have been rehashed for decades. I could see those type of shows going the way of the sit-com before too much longer. Anyway I thought I'd lay out my defense and explain my position.

Lastly, what well written shows were s-canned this year? The only one I wished would have kept running was Daybreak, but I don't think that was a well written show, I just like Omar Epps.

[JackedupLockedown]

@ jg

I love Jeopardy, forgot about that...I'll revise my statement to three primetime network shows.

I am fan of the stash over the stashless Trebek, you?

[frankmorris]

@ JackedupLockedown

You're right about Survivor, there's something to be said for being the original (in anything).

The most annoying thing about reality T.V. is how everybody copies the same formula of everyone else, & the masses eat it up like a bunch of f---ing sheep.

I lost interest in this season of Survivor though (no hot babes).

[Mark B]

Happy LOST finale Day ..... I guess we're meant to be happy right ?

15 hours and counting .....

[Mark B]

Just listened to the Jorge interview on the Dharmalars podcast and he described the rattlesnake moment as "mind blowing"

Apparently the original cast all know the rattlesnake moment but he doesn't think the rest know -- he mentioned Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliet) by name but no one else.

[Mike in the Box]

Subject: Jorge (Hurley) in old commercial

I dunno if anyone has seen this, but i found an old jack in the box commercial with Jorge in it. It also has the guy who played Pedro in Napoleon Dynamite.

check it out.

http://www.petersreviews.com/index.php?/archives/976-Jorge-Hurley-Garcia-From-Lost-In-Old-Jack-In-The-Box-Commercial.html

[Babs]

Okay, everyone is all "This is the first time we didn't see Desmond's vision." WRONG. "Catch-22" was the ONLY time we saw his vision, because it was a Des-centric episode. We didn't see any of his other flashes of Charlie dying. So we have no way of knowing if Des was telling the truth any of the times except "Catch-22", in which he was (although omitting a big detail!) So I see no reason to wonder if this time he is lying to Charlie, if we didn't wonder before. That is, I think he told Charlie precisely what his vision was, although he may not have foreseen the bit with the bad-ass chicks.