LOSTCasts 69: There's No Place Like Home 2 & 3

Join Robert, Matt and John as we discuss the season finale of season 4 of LOST, There's No Place Like Home (parts 2 & 3). In this podcast, we discuss some of the more interesting questions raised by the season 4 finale, such as Ben's intentions, Locke's new role and speculation on his leadership, the fate of those on the island and more.

Download podcast #69 here

Links related to the podcast:
McSweeney's LOST original pilot script
Popular Mechanics on moving the island
Wikipedia entry for Jeremy Bentham
Alternate finale endings from Good Morning America
Octagon Global Recruiting

Make sure to keep tabs on the site during the new Alternate Reality Game that will launch in July. Until next season, Stay LOST...

Comments

[Steven]

First to comment! i've been waiting so long for this podcast!

[connor]

Thanks guys - do you have a donate button anywhere?

[cornbeef]

http://lostcommunity.co.uk

[Matt Lafferty]

As always, thanks for all you do guys! Can't wait to listen!

[Andy]

Thank you!

Usually, after a UK episode has been aired, I have a nice big juicy LostCast to listen to straight after. After a fortnight of no-showing, I'm relieved you guys are back!

Thought I'd comment on how great it was to see my university's (University College, London) founder, Jeremy Bentham, get a shout-out on the show. I've seen some stuff on Lostpedia saying that his head had always been a wax model, but they used to ahve his real head on his real body (in a display case), before our rival university (King's College, London) kept pulling pranks by stealing it and playing football/soccer with it. Scour the internet - there's some interesting photos of it!

Anyway, keep up the good work.

[stringy]

re: Keamy's dead-man switch - it wouldn't be much of a dead-man switch if it was easy for someone to take it off him and wear it themselves. He seems like the kind of guy who'd anticipate the possibility of getting caught, tortured, etc. If you can hand it around to all your captors, it doesn't give you any protection against them.

Still loved Ben's reaction to having set off the bomb, though :) As soon as Keamy started threating him with it, I knew Ben wouldn't give a damn about it.

[stringy]

Also, in hindsight, how much of a dick is Jack for saying to Kate (in their happy family flash-forward) that Sawyer chose to stay? Yeah, he chose to stay, while Jack just sat there looking stunned as the helicopter lost fuel.

[Mike]

Excellent work guys. It's because I like the podcast so much that I was among the pissed when you took two episodes off.

[Cihan]

I think you guys are paying too much attention to the 'constant', in relation to Widmore/Ben and people going to and from the island. I really dont think its going to be mentioned again much in the show or even appear again. It was a one-off for that Desmond episode to give his character something to do, and they explained it away with a throw-away line about 'people who have undergone lots of radiation', which Desmond obviously had when the hatch blew up.

Why Ben and Widmore cant kill each other is probably something we havent been given any clues about yet and will be a revelation to surprise us next season or the one after.

Regarding Keamy, I dont really have a problem with his bloody appearence, he's a walking cliche and that's fine, but what's still bugging me is Mikhail's character. They've said he died in the hatch explosion but that's frustrating on two levels: 1) how come that killed him, but all the other times he didnt die, and 2) why the hell did he kill himself? Gargh. Lost is renowned for trying to tie up any loose threads it has, but its slowly accumulating loose threads that its not tying up properly.

[frankmorris]

@ Cihan

Mikhail? hatch explosion?
Have you been exposed to any radiation? :)

[Cihan]

Haha! Yeah, I'm losing it. How about porthole explosion? Kinda close, right? Right!?

[elaine]

it was a hatch (albeit an underwater one) and it was an explosion so I think you're better than close cihan :)

[elaine]

it was a hatch (albeit an underwater one) and it was an explosion so I think you're better than close cihan :)

[Tyrone]

Dunno who did the Sun impersonation but what a racist.

Learn how to speak to your audience....

[Scott]

I'm with Cihan, all of that useless talk about "the constant" frustrated me. I think you guys are focusing WAY too much on the little details and trying to find clues where there aren't any clues. With that said I love the podcast and I'm going to miss it over the hiatus

[Dave]

I think your podcast has really gone downhill. I used to love your podcast and the theories you all would talk about. If you don't like doing the podcast, just stop. After the first bit about Darth Vader.....I just turned it off. You guys just sound like you don't like the show and are just doing the podcast to do it. I hope you still enjoy the show, but I am going to stop listening. I'll listen to the Jay and Jack podcast and talk about the show with my wife......that is far more enjoyable than listening to the Lostcast.

[Jon W]

Racially stereotyped accents aside, top work again guys.

[lburf]

Did i hear whispers before Christian appeard on the fraiter?

[Babs]

Yes, lburf, you did.

Podcast too short! You guys with your stupid real lives. ;) Your unfortunate table reading of the McSweeney's post reminded me of "Threat Level Midnight".

[lburf]

Was it not concluded that the whispers where the others in the trees? if so how can the whispers be on the freiter? confused!

[Wes]

Hey everyone! My friend and I have started a LOST podcast of our own.

Check it out:
www.getyourbeerongetyourloston.blogspot.com

[scott in philly]

@ Dave & other podcasting naysayers.

I tend to agree that the intellectural/"mystique" value from the podcast is dropping off greatly. But i don't think it's the podcasters fault. they made a great point in the podcast about the content the show itself is providing us.

I watched the pilot episodes again today and I was reminded at how many WTF? moments seemed to pop up early on. tons of different issues, questions, strange happenings, mysterious, deaths, etc, etc. Early on it seemed that ALL of things had little to no connection, save their presence in the same show storylines. this is at the heart of what made LOSTCASTS so great in the first half of the series.

but now, well, we are getting answers. Dots are being connected. Storylines are getting completed and it becomes reveal after reveal rather than question after question and mystery after mystery. there's not much digging around, speculating, theorizing one could even do at this point.

We watch an episode and feel like "oh, okay... this must be B, C, and D of how we got from A to E in season 2. Cool" Not a whole lot we can do with that I guess. A "theory cast" at this point would even seem pretty useless. look around (forums, boards, other 'casts) everyones saying the same things after this season. they have the same few questions and the same basic theories. there just isn't room for as many tangents anymore. and, unfortunately, that makes for any podcast a bit less on the thrilling side of conjecture. this makes me sad but it's the price we pay for demanding answers. We just can't have our cake AND eat it too.

So keep up the good work LOSTCASTS... you can only work with what you are given at this point

[frankmorris]

@ scott in philly

great points, well said.

[Matt Jones - Believe it or Not]

Another thing that is hampering us is that the literary and genre fiction references we're more comfortable with have given way to quantum physics. Not exactly our area of expertise.

[skilbo]

while howard stern was off last week i went back and listened to some old lostcasts. listen to the podcast about the book "watership down" that they recorded after season 2. it's amazing that season 3 played out almost exactly like that book. not to mention a lot of the lostcasters theories were proven right season 3.

@skilbo (myself) great comment!