Yes, LOST is finally back tonight. Matt, Robert and I weren't able to pull together a podcast over the holiday, but we're excited to be back this weekend, podcasting on the premiere episode of season 5 of LOST. Leave your comments here, or send us an email!


Welcome back guys! I can't wait to listen this week.
Posted by: Mike in the Box | January 21, 2009 at 06:35 PM
Yay
Posted by: Scuac | January 21, 2009 at 08:05 PM
Welcome backs guys, Can't wait to listen to the podcast.
Stay Lost.
Posted by: Pearson | January 21, 2009 at 08:29 PM
Welcome back.... looking forward to the podcast...time travel is soo interesting...
Posted by: StevenFromBarbados | January 21, 2009 at 09:13 PM
Tonights episode was great interesting things happened. Time travel is now full blown which we now know is thankfully static (time line can't change) in nature with the exception of Desmond. We see ms. hawking yet again who I speculate is Faraday's Mother. Great premier ready for the following weeks to come and of course your wonderful podcast.
Posted by: Barrett Routon | January 21, 2009 at 11:15 PM
Hey guys! So excited to hear that podcasts. What an AWESOME season premiere...
Posted by: Gaia | January 21, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Is Charlotte's mind getting scrambled since she may have been born on the island and so is affected by the time-jumping differently? Like how the Others aren't jumping through time, just our Losties plus Juliet.
I really welcome the suspense of the time-jumping and the slow brain destruction of Charlotte.
Another thought, are Faraday and Charlotte related as siblings?
Posted by: Gaia | January 21, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Heck yes! Welcome back gentlemen.
Posted by: Dave | January 22, 2009 at 12:04 AM
"WHY IS THERE A DEAD PAKISTANI ON MY COUCH???"
Best line of the night. Hurley using a Hot Pocket as a weapon was also good.
Posted by: Sobaika | January 22, 2009 at 12:16 AM
So, could the body in the casket be a future Locke, meaning that there is still a present Locke running around? Ben's usual reaction of non-disclosure, and the fact that I doubt they'd REALLY off Locke permanently, implies Locke is somehow still alive or could be brought back.
Of course, if that IS just a future Locke body, why is it important to keep it safe aside from the importance of bringing it back to the island?
Yes, I did just provide both a theory and a counter point in an attempt to disprove said theory.
Stay Lost.
Posted by: BluThundur | January 22, 2009 at 01:30 AM
I'm completely on board with the time travel element and it feels like this 'reveal', more of an acknowledgement, has allowed Lost to again propel itself forward and remain an exciting hour of television.
Another great aspect to the time travel element is the ability to bring back characters and relate them to the myriad mysterious questions yet to be answered, i.e. Adam & Eve. I think it is now abundantly clear that our unstuck Losties on the island will be tied to many of the mysteries' origins. Will Sawyer lose his toe to infection and thus become 4-toed? Will he be the inspiration for the infamous 4-toed statue? Will Rose & Bernard die together, home back at the caves years before stepping foot on the island for the '1st' time? Will the whispers be revealed to be the voices of the Losties 'unstuck' selves?
Other highlights:
Dharma in it's building stages w/ an appearance by Dr. Cheng, Candle, Halliwax...loved the tongue in cheek comment by the dharma worker, 'Did you hear that guy? Time travel. Does he think we're a bunch of fools?'. And then we see he's talking to Daniel freakin' Faraday. Awesome!
Hurley's pop (looking more like he could be Hurley's dad than ever with his long, greasy hair and expanding waistline) sitting down to a sandwhich and an episode of Expose!
Locke's emergence from the woods after saving Sawyer and Juliet. The moment you see the knife you know it's the greatness of John Locke.
Hurley's broad grin at Ben while being locked up, someone finally just says no to Ben - GO Hurley!
Questions:
How will Locke leave the island?
Does Alpert find a way to 'unstick' Locke, thus freeing him to leave the island?
Will Desmond's decision to return to the island be the 'constant' that frees Faraday and the others from being stuck?
What happened between Sayid and Ben? Did Ben have Nadia killed in order to enlist Sayid with a lie?
How will Sun's hatred for Ben factor into Jack's efforts to bring 'everyone' back?
Were there any literary or scholarly references in these episodes that tie into the mythology of the show? I didn't notice any books being read. Anybody notice anything like that?
So happy Lost is back...can't wait for the podcast!
Chris in Forth Worth
Posted by: Chris in Fort Worth | January 22, 2009 at 03:28 AM
Anyone know the status of the LostcastsFanForum? The site is incredibly slow and I don't see any knew posts, what happened?
Chris in Fort Worth
Posted by: Chris in Fort Worth | January 22, 2009 at 03:32 AM
Anyone else think Miles is Candles son?
Also, Ms. Hawking has to be Faradays mom.
Cant wait for the new podcast.
Posted by: Mical | January 22, 2009 at 05:07 AM
@Sobaika
Definately the best line - had me chuckling.
I have a few reservations about episode 1.
I stopped watching Heroes because of all the time
travelling crap that was going on.I hope all the time
shifting/travelling that was going on in Lost ep.1 isn't
overused.I just find it to be weak writing.
Overall I loved it - LOST IS BACK.
Posted by: Tahir | January 22, 2009 at 06:13 AM
Yay for Lostcasts, can't wait to hear from you guys again. Thought the new episodes were astonishing.
Posted by: Scott H | January 22, 2009 at 07:12 AM
I agree that time traveling as a plot device can be weak (see the above mentioned Heroes), however, I feel the creators of Lost aren't simply throwing it out there to explain away plot holes or take the easy way out. No, the entire series revolves around fate, faith, destiny, cause and effect, duality and the journey of the human spirit; the consequences of time travel on the characters of Lost seem more real world than anything on Heroes.
However loosely, it does utilize the science behind space-time theory and quantum physics to help explain the phenomena. There's no sign on the horizon of characters suddenly being blessed with the power to squint really hard and jump to another time and place of their choice.
Posted by: Chris in Fort Worth | January 22, 2009 at 07:51 AM
Welcome Back.. what a long wait for both you and Lost.
last night epi was incrediable. best scene, was hurley and his mother's face when he tried to explain to her what happened. Has anyone had that happen? while trying to explain lost. Hats off to all the cast. I am spoiled when it comes to shows now. nothing holds a candle to this one.
Posted by: Karen | January 22, 2009 at 09:11 AM
I think I figured out the memory loss mystery and when the island physically is: The island jumped 3 years ahead of where it was before it dissapeared. This is also when Desmond's memory of meeting Daniel in the past is formed. This is due to course correction. Daniel travelled with the island 3 years ahead when it was moved. Course correction makes it so anything that the on-island characters interact with in the past can't be affected until the time zone that they are from and are supposed to be in(3 years from the island move) occurs, thus only affecting the present. Had Desmond remembered Daniel before the on-islander's natural time zone, the past would have changed and this cannot happen.
As far as Ethan remembering Locke, Locke was on the island when it moved and is therefore 3 years ahead of when the island dissapeared. So Ethan wouldn't have the memory of meeting Locke until 2007(I think that's the right year). Too bad he's dead. : ) You can also look at when Ben travelled after turning the wheel. 3 Years as well.
Posted by: Mike | January 22, 2009 at 09:26 AM
I think I figured out the memory loss mystery and when the island physically is: The island jumped 3 years ahead of where it was before it dissapeared. This is also when Desmond's memory of meeting Daniel in the past is formed. This is due to course correction. Daniel travelled with the island 3 years ahead when it was moved. Course correction makes it so anything that the on-island characters interact with in the past can't be affected until the time zone that they are from and are supposed to be in(3 years from the island move) occurs, thus only affecting the present. Had Desmond remembered Daniel before the on-islander's natural time zone, the past would have changed and this cannot happen.
As far as Ethan remembering Locke, Locke was on the island when it moved and is therefore 3 years ahead of when the island dissapeared. So Ethan wouldn't have the memory of meeting Locke until 2007(I think that's the right year). Too bad he's dead. : ) You can also look at when Ben travelled after turning the wheel. 3 Years as well.
Sorry if this message comes up 2 times it didn't show up the 1st time I posted.
Posted by: Mike | January 22, 2009 at 09:35 AM
Lost was back in a big way last night! I was so excited to see it. I thought the episode was great.
Speculation - I believe Sun was behind the "lawyers" that showed up at Kate's house. Sun knew Kate would run and then Sun was all-too-conveniently in LA and called at just the right time to have Kate drop by... Very suspicious...
I can't help but feel that the "I don't blame you" was less than sincere.
Posted by: Courtney | January 22, 2009 at 09:51 AM
Sun meets with Widmore, where he has her confined....and then the next thing we see, she is in LA, talking to Kate. Something is definitely up there. Sun is not being honest, for whatever reason
Posted by: Adam | January 22, 2009 at 10:33 AM
I think that the island traveling through time helps explain Richard Alpert's seeming agelessness. He isn't aging because he is jumping through time with the island.
Posted by: Mike in the Box | January 22, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Wasn't Sun already heading to L.A. before talking to Widmore? She is definitely more shady post-Jin, I'll give you that!
Posted by: Chris in Fort Worth | January 22, 2009 at 11:50 AM
Does anyone see the connection of Daddy Shephard being dead and in a coffin, but then coming back to life on the island really similar to what's going to happen to Locke when they find it again?
I'm sure I'm really late on the uptake on that one, but I just thought of that!
Cant't wait for the PodCast guys!!!
Mica: Nice catch with Miles being Candle's son!! I have no clue if the timelines work out.
Posted by: Tiffiany | January 22, 2009 at 01:21 PM
ok. now I need to figure something out. sorry if I sound a bit messy. but this is LOST. so....
***
If the losties are going back and forth in time, people who are now dead on the island could resurface. which leads me to consider a few issues based on this : if your body is still on the island, are you then alive when the losties travel to a specific time where you were alive ?
it seems to me like the body's location is an issue too : when the losties travel in time, they stay at the same place and everything else around them changes. which leads to very interesting stuff that could explain a lot of things ... I'll procede by examples
-Jack's dad : his body is on the island, not buried (that we know of). so when the losties travel to pre-2004, he is not dead yet. does he become alive ? could this explain his appearances ?
-Claire : same issue. we don't know where her body is. I think she died in the explosion and that's where her body is. NOT BURIED.
- ethan : left for dead in the woods ? I'm sure they didn't give him a proper burial. Which explains why he can come back.
-any person who is dead and buried : do they basically wake up underground and die of intoxication ? ex: anna lucia etc...
- the dharma bodies : do they come alive if you travel to pre-80s. Is that who attacked the losties in the end of the episode ?
- Jacob : could he just be the extreme example of what is happening to the losties ? he is rapidly and constantly travelling through time and trying to escape from that ("help me").
***
which leads us to desmond being special. According to my theory, that fits. he is special because, despite the fact that he isn't on the island, his body is still here when we travel to the past. Why ?? I have no idea.
--- reactions ?
Posted by: Philippe M | January 22, 2009 at 01:30 PM
YEAHHHHHHH
Posted by: Deffn | January 22, 2009 at 03:03 PM
So, Locke got shot when attempted to climb up to Yemi plane after he "skipped" back to the past. BUT in the first season when he and Boone come upon the plane, Locke can't climb because HIS LEGS STOP WORKING. Could this be due to some sort of ripple of his already being at that place, and what happened to him there in the past??
Also, Locke dreamed about the plane crashing. Could that "dream" simply have been a ripple of seeing it happen in the past?
Yikes.
Posted by: emily | January 22, 2009 at 03:47 PM
anyone else think that Alex is Candle's baby. She's the right age.
Posted by: lexi | January 22, 2009 at 04:51 PM
wouldn't the losties see themselves on the beach though, when they're flipping through time? that's what confuses me, mainly.
Posted by: jade | January 22, 2009 at 06:25 PM
thank jacob you guys are back!!
Posted by: shredlove | January 22, 2009 at 07:54 PM
@ Emily,
I like that a lot, surely Locke's sudden loss of mobility in Season 1 is tied to his being shot by Ethan.
I'm thinking that will be just the tip of the iceberg!
Posted by: Chris in Fort Worth | January 22, 2009 at 10:59 PM
Well, it appears the Lostcasts Fan Forum has been abandoned...I was hopeful the return of Lost would spark some typically well-read and educated discussion I was used to seeing last season.
I especially will miss the theories and ideas laid out by Mike in the Box and jg.
Posted by: Chris in Fort Worth | January 22, 2009 at 11:05 PM
well I've just finished watching epi 1 and 2 of season 5 for the second time and am thoroughly satisfied. I think this season has a lot to offer and I'm looking forward to all that will be revealed (and questioned!).
A few things that my second viewing verified:
-the reason Faraday could access Desmond is because they'd met previously in 1996. probably obvious to most but it's something i didn't fully catch onto the first time.
-Desmond is special because he's gone back in time and HAS changed the course of the future (...right?).
-Desmond and Penny are now married! :) (rings can be seen while they're on the boat)
-Tom was there in the jungle when Juliet was going to get her hand cut off but Locke killed him with the knife!
Looking forward to listening to the podcast and hearing your thoughts & findings.
Stay Lost!
Posted by: Nik | January 23, 2009 at 12:16 AM
also,
@ Emily
I love that as well! What a great thought.
I would love if the plot was that well thought out. Then how brilliant would it be to watch the series again?!
Posted by: Nik | January 23, 2009 at 02:00 AM
Looking forward to the new podcast! I was starting to fear I had to find another one (which probably would not have been as good...).
By the way, if you listen to the first Official Lost Podcast from November 8 2005, there's this quote:
Damon Lindelof: There's a big picture within the bigger picture, so it's always in service of that. So, I feel, obviously, with fans …
Carlton Cuse: You're not going to tell them about the time travel, are you?
Damon Lindelof: No, no, I'm not going to. In fact, I'm going to go back in time and prevent you from having said that. [Laughs]
Carlton Cuse: Oh my God.
That's funny. =)
From Amsterdam,
Marijn
Posted by: Marijn Kool | January 23, 2009 at 03:45 AM
I wonder if Locke being shot in the leg by Ethan could explain why he suddenly collapsed and was unable to walk as he approached Yemi’s plane with Boone all the way back to season one…
Posted by: Steven | January 23, 2009 at 09:25 AM
Looking forward to it (but this time-travel-without-altering-the-timeline stuff makes my brain hurt)!
Posted by: littleimp | January 23, 2009 at 09:33 AM
RE: Sun
Did anyone think that it was very convenient that these men came requesting a blood sample and spooked Kate and Sun just happened to be in LA and call her on that day?? I started to think that maybe Sun sent them and she wants Kate on the run (or with her) for whatever reason. . . .
Posted by: littleimp | January 23, 2009 at 09:38 AM
Wow, Philippe, that's an interesting theory and gives much food for thought. I think you might be on to something, even if it leaves much to be explained.
Take Jack's dad: I could understand it if he appeared on-island pre-2004, but not off-island or post 2004. And clearly the first time Jack sees his "ghost" it's post 2004 (unless the island is perpetually stuck in the past).
Posted by: Frosty | January 23, 2009 at 10:43 AM
I am glad Lost is back. But what I don't like is that the Island has turned into a Tardis.
Posted by: Loo | January 23, 2009 at 11:14 AM
Miles as to be Martin Candles son.
Posted by: pbi | January 23, 2009 at 12:11 PM
another long shot theory of mine :
Lockes's body is required for whatever they are going to do to go back. now : what if lockes body becomes jacob in the process. in season 6, there will be no locke. but there will be jacob in lockes body. same actor though could happen as early as mid-season 5.
this way, terry o'quinn can still be on the show :)
Posted by: Philippe M | January 23, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Not sure 100% what to make of all the time-travel yet. So many different ways they could be planning on it going.
As for Desmond being special, I took that to mean that since he was on the island at the time they went back to, and Daniel knows that he gets off the island, then he can use him as a communications means. However the two problems with that is talking to him is changing things, and do they know Desmond made it all the way off, or could they think that he blew up with the boat.
Then there are a ton of questions as to who can travel.
I'm thinking this is limited to whoever was on the island when it became un-stuck. When we see Dharma, Ethan, etc... we are seeing them because the island has jumped back to that point in time. We are jumping with the Losties. However, what happens to all the Others that went to the Temple and are supposedly there when it jumped. Are they immune cause they are natives? Or are they jumping with the Losties?
Still waiting to see why the Oceanic 6 need to go back to fix things...they were off the island when it jumped. By that logic, Jin, Walt, Michael, Desmond, etc... should need to go back as well.
Also, did you notice the song playing in the convenience store when Hurley got his new shirt - "Dream Police", right after seeing Ana Lucia. Wonder if that is a hint as to how we keep seeing dead people.
Posted by: Dan | January 23, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Cant wait to hear your podcast, you guys are the best!!!
Great way to start Season 5, loved the episodes & trying to get my head around all the different times / time travel.
I think Sun is working for/with Ben to get Widmore to help get back the island - Sun's manipulating Kate for sure.
Interesting thought that Miles may be Dr Candle's son...
Thanks again for your work on the podcast - no doubt you provide the most insite compared to any other podcast that I listen to
Posted by: Tim Lindquist | January 23, 2009 at 01:40 PM
First off ... WELCOME BACK LOSTCASTERS!!! Glad to see you guys are still around and will be back on the podcasting air this weekend ...
I really have enjoyed reading everyone's very intelligent comments about LOST ...
@Phillipe - I think your time-traveling theory will work-out a lot better, if you think of the Island ping-ponging through space-time as the Losties remain at a single point in space-time ... Now this is going to get a little-confusing, so please bear with me --
- Losties are still linked to the "real-world" space-time (through the O6 being in the real world), which means that the Losties are experiencing time (on the Island) in reference to the real-world (i.e. Losties on-Island experience is occurring ~Jan. 2005, with the O6 "present" occurring ~Jan. 2008)
- Island is "ping-ponging" through space-time, while the Losties are still linked to the "real-world" timeline ... Thus, the Losties experience of traveling to different times on the Island (think of "looking at the road moving under you as you're driving).
- None of the on-Island deceased Losties (those that died on the Island) will be reincarnated ... They are dead and therefore, are not "time-skipping" with the rest of the Losties ... Same goes for the Others.
- However, I do think dead people can be re-incarnated if they died off-Island and are brought back ... And of course, they must be "chosen by the Island" (i.e. Christian and now John Locke{??})
- What about the children that the Others took (Emma, Zach, etc.)? Are they safe with the Others or are the "time-skipping" with the Losties?
- How are the groups (Losties, Others, etc.) being delineated? It can't be by actual events (plane crash, freighter, etc.), since Juliet & the Freighties are "time-skipping" with the Losties.
More comments to come ... Glad to have the Lostcasters back "In Da House"!
Stay LOST!
Posted by: Eric | January 23, 2009 at 02:14 PM
RE: Miles is Chang's kid ...
I really like this idea ... I can totally see it being the reveal that shows what happened to all the DI kids (from Ben's youth).
RE: O6 Sun
I agree that Sun sent the lawyers to Kate's house ... Pretty much to "put her in play".
Posted by: Eric | January 23, 2009 at 02:20 PM
My Random Crackpot Theory:
The Losties are intrinsically connected to the mythology of the island, and the time travel allows them to plant the seeds of some of the mysteries we have seen in the show. For example, what if the Losties end up in the past and Bernard and Rose die and THEY are the Adam and Eve introduced in the first season? Or what if Hurley is responsible for the numbers ending up on the hatch in the first place? What if them zipping through time so quickly is responsible for the whispers?
Posted by: Sobaika | January 24, 2009 at 03:29 AM
@ Sobaika
Exactly! Now, think about this: Sawyer hurt his toe pretty bad in the season opener did he not? Why would that be written into the show? I'll tell you why, Sawyer will lose that toe to infection and become 4-toed! His heroics while playing in the bounce house of space time will inspire ancient island civilizations to create a monument in his honor, or something like that...
I think this would be great for all future reveals surrounding the island mysteries: our beloved Losties tied to each mystery's origins.
What do you think?
Posted by: Chris in Fort Worth | January 24, 2009 at 03:47 AM
Just who exactly is immune to jumping through time? Richard obviously isn't jumping but what about Cindy and the rest of the people from 815 that have joined the others? We know it's not just 815 people jumping because of Juliet, Miles, and Charlotte, but who else? Are you only safe if you are one of the indigenous people like Richard, or is there something special about those who went to the Temple maybe?
Posted by: Adam | January 24, 2009 at 07:43 AM
Who are Gabriel and Jeffrey that Ben references when talking to Jill?
Lots of people are speculating that they are the two lawyers that talked to Kate. I think it is just as likely that they are the two people who attacked Sayid in the "safehouse". It seems like Sayid and Ben had a falling out and maybe Ben thought it would be easier just to trank Sayid and wake him up when he got to the island. If the two attackers were Widmore men wouldn't they just try and kill Sayid to stop him from killing them one by one?
Also, for the life of me I cannot come up with a solid theory as to why some people are skipping through time and some are not. Hopefully the podcast can help me there.
Glad to see that you are back!
Posted by: Eric | January 24, 2009 at 09:16 AM
I think that the "others" not skipping through time has much more to do with the Temple than we think.
Posted by: blumune | January 24, 2009 at 10:59 AM
Correct me if I m wrong... But when Alpert visited Locke when he was a child and asked him to choose an item that he layed out on the table one of the items was a compass right? Could this be related to why he gave locke a compass and asked him to give it to him next time he sees him?
Posted by: Michael | January 24, 2009 at 02:13 PM
@ Michael
yes it was a compass, but I don't think it was the same one.
Posted by: Nik | January 24, 2009 at 03:06 PM
I believe that Jill the Butcher is Ben's childhood friend Annie from the Island. She is using Jill as a pseudonym. Because of Ben's relationship with her it is likely he saved her from the purge.
Posted by: StevenFromBarbados | January 24, 2009 at 04:56 PM
Anyone else notice the package that Ben removed from behind the Motel air vent?
Could this be all the Files he had on the Losties back in early Season 3?
Generally when literature deals with time travel (sensibly - please note Zeroes.. how about spin off with Hiro anyone, like Friends Joey, but good "hey how you doin - yataaaaaaaa!") it ends up looping back on its self / destiny - especially as we're being led to believe you cannot change time whatever you do.
Also, Sawyer getting that stick into his toe.. if he was to lose that toe... what else on the island has 4 toes :-D
Posted by: Si UK | January 25, 2009 at 04:34 AM
IS Locke Lost??
In the season opener when Alpert told Locke to "give me the Pocket watch the next time we meet." It got me thinking about the episode last season where Alpert visited a young Locke and presented him with a few things to choose from to check his specialness. A pocket watch was one of those choices. Locke did not choose the watch and Alpert left pissed. I wonder if when Locke leaves the island to gather the Oceanic 6 he becomes "lost" and Alpert has to search through time to find him. Alpert is looking for the Locke that the island needs and the young Locke wasn't him . . .yet.
Posted by: David J. | January 25, 2009 at 10:57 AM
so Jack is stuck in a time loop? the time-travel baton?
When he awoke in the bamboo forest in the pilot.....will that be the ending scene as well when Lost airs its finale?
thoughts?
Posted by: Gizzm | January 25, 2009 at 02:04 PM