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[James Mkintyre]

Something doesnt seem quite right to me. The whole world and his uncle love this stuff.

Smoke weed every day.

[Megan]

I sent an email in about this, but I thought I'd mention it here.

How did Ben get Jin's wedding ring? The way I see it, there are two possible ways it went down.

A. Ben when to see Locke, Locke told him about the ring, Ben leaves, Locke somehow dies, Ben goes back and takes the ring, using it to get Sun back to the island.

B. Ben goes to see Locke, Locke may or may not tell Ben that he's going to tell Sun that Jin is dead, Ben kills Locke and takes the ring.

I think it is entirely possible that Ben killed Locke - I don't think it's conceivable that Locke would have just given Ben the ring, whether or not he was going to tell Sun that Jin was dead. Either way, there's no reason to give Ben the ring.

So now I'm waiting for the on-island flashback to Ben killing Locke....

[Erig]

@Megan: But Locke turned the wheel, so he's left the island.

Anyway, great episode.

I'm excited to see Locke go around and talk to the Oceanic 6 and try and get them to come back, only to die in the process. It'd probably be gut wrenching sad.

And what do you guys think happened to Rousseau's team? Did the smoke monster really warp their minds? Or were they persuaded to try and kill Danielle by the Others? I'm hoing it's the former. That'd be Lovecraftian and awesome.

And do you think the rope stuck in te ground is how the natives or Dharma found the "donkey wheel"?

Also, it seems the area where the wheel is is unaffected by the time jumps since it seems Locke "fixed" it by putting it back on its axis.

Things sure are ramping up to something exciting.

[Megan]

@ Erig, sorry what I meant was if Ben gets back to the island, we get a flash-back, to off the island, of Ben killing Locke.

Somehow we're going to see Locke approaching at least some of the Oceanic 6, and I'm sure we'll see Ben and Locke meeting as well. In light of what Christian Shepherd told Locke about listening to Ben, that should be an interesting meeting whether I'm right about Ben killing Locke or not.

[Mark B]

Ben got Jins wedding ring because Locke gave it to him. Locke is in full on fix the island mode. He thinks he needs to get the rest back to save the island. He lied to Jin. Locke has become the new Ben. He'll lie, cheat an manipulate anyone to get what he wants.

That said I like the idea that Ben killed Locke. However I think Ben killed him because he (Ben) still wants to be the leder of the Others and he sees Locke as his main adversary.

Other things of note were that;
1. Charlotte died without us finding out her parentage.
2. Daniel tried to save her by going back in time, but couldn't.
3. Rousseaus crew did go mad and she did kill them .... or was she the mad one. Did the crew go mad because of the monster interaction or what ?
4. Montand lost his arm .... badly.
5. The Temple was found. Assume this is where the Others were heading.
6. The monster protects the Temple (does the tunnel in Ben Otherton house lead to the Temple?)
7. Mrs Hawking is Daniels Mum. Not that surprising.
8. Des has turned up and Mrs Hawking doesn't seem to surprised. Yet he is not one of the O6. Is he going back as well ?
9. Mrs Hawking doesn't seem to annoyed that not all of the O6 are not there given the panic before.

That's all for now, I guess

[Tahir]

Great episode.

One thing though.....Charlotte.
Why was she in LOST for a season and a bit and didn't do anything useful ?
An Anthropologist on the Lost island was a great idea but the writers killed her off like that!.

A wasted Opportunity.

[Mike in the Box]

Most epic stories have a character that is referred to as the "Christ-figure." The "Christ Figure is a spiritual or prophetic character who parallels Jesus, or other spiritual or prophetic figures...Christ figures are often martyrs, sacrificing themselves for causes larger than themselves. Wikipedia article.

I believe that this week's episode is the true beginning of John Locke's role as Christ-figure. Here are my thoughts:

- Jesus ministers to a Samaritan woman at Jacob's Well. This is an example of his ministry reaching out of his primary area of Jerusalem.
- John begins his journey to save the island and takes his "ministry" out of his primary area, by entering a well...Jacob's Well.

-The story of Jesus at Jacob's Well is recorded in the book of John.
-Do I really need to make this connection?

-Jesus' ministry requires him to sacrifice himself for the salvation of others.
-John's "ministry" requires him to sacrifice himself for the salvation of others, as told to him by Christian Shepherd.

This being said, LOST has led me to consider several crackpot theories in the past.

That leads me to my Crackpot theory of the week:

Daniel is Charlotte's father. She tells him that she has not seen her father since she left the island as a child. Previously, Daniel had expressed that he loved Charlotte. Many viewers believed that Daniel meant this on a romantic level. However, he never implies this and tenderly, compassionately cares for Charlotte, as a father would.

This is probably in left field but I will stick to it until it is proven wrong.

[Jackeduplockedown]

Fantastic Final Scene

Kudos to all those on the Christian Shepard is Jacob bandwagon from the start. Now we just need to figure out what the F that means and we'll be all set.

Interesting to find out how far back this Jacob thing goes now. Obviously Jacob can project himself anywhere and anytime; Walt has some sort of ability to do this, what about Locke? Will he gain that ability or can he now only live on the Island? How about Alpert is his ability the same or is it a separate thing entirely. Remember Ben's comment "You do remember Birthday's don't you Richard?"

So a few things
1. We're led to believe Jack's dad is Jacob and he probably is.
2. The problem with this is how does Jack's dad age on the real world but exist on the Island
3. Richard who is at least 100's of years old knew of Jacob as Jacob in 1954 when Locke visited him.
4. Jacob can only be seen by certain people; Ben and Locke are the only two confirmed. Richard can't see him.

So all in all is Jack's Dad really Jacob and how does all that crap work?

I'm thinking one of two scenarios both full of holes right now.

#1 Jack's Dad is actually from the past like way back pre or near four-toed statue days. He learned of the Island's powers and was in tune with them and was selected by the Island to be it's protector and granted eternal life on the Island, like Alpert has (assuming for theory's sake)and Locke will get and like Ben and Widmore want.

As part of his initiation or "work" like Locke is going through now Christian had to travel to the future and live a life making certain things happen to ensure that everything necessary was done for this crucial moment in the Islands history to ensure it's preservation. Thus he left behind all the people of his time, which may or may not have included Alpert and now has finally been able to return to the Island in body and in spirit.

#2 Jacob is not Jack's dad but rather can manifest himself as whatever he sees fit. Jacob is also Ben's Mom, Kate's Horse or maybe rather those are manifestations created by Jacob. This is why Ben says only certain people can see Jacob and he used to be able to but now he can't. Jacob can only be seen by who he wants to be seen by, same as heard. Jacob is the spirit of the Island and has existed as long as the Island has. It's sole purpose like any other living thing is to ensure it's survival.

So those are my thoughts on the major issue, I liked the episode.

Good time for a character to die, the actress did a nice job and I enjoyed her character.

Good bye to Charlotte and another nice call by the majority of viewers who predicated an Island Childhood for her. Really cool reveal with Daniel as the creepy time traveler guy with the ominous warning given not a thought until it came to fruition.

Didn't for the Sun and Ben showdown, it was predictable in the CSI sense. I'm really starting to see just how much the setting and the make-up of the Island scenes does for the believability of the actors. The off-Island scenes are rough.

Thought the Rousseau story was a bit rushed and sloppy and felt more like a nod to long time fans, that said I appreciated it and I think it also serves to let us know that we can feel free to tie a lot of those loose ends up ourselves using Occams razor. Did find it interesting to note that smoke monster was the cause of the Sickness, that or Danielle was actually the one who went mad. I wonder if\when we'll get the Alex kidnapping story.

I also think the fact that we we're reintroduced to the smoke monster and Jacob and a temple in the same episode is more then just a coincidence. I'm pretty sure Smokey is Jacob's security system.

Wondering when the Island will end up and what else will happen between Island time and real time before our off-Island Losties return.

I am as confused as everyone else about how it seems so imperative to have them all according to Ben, Elly Hawking and Jacob, but now they are going to get started with just the three. My guess is they are going to explain to them, and lucky us we'll get to hear, a lot about the Island and what it is and what will happened if they go back and what will happen if they don't. There is 70 some episodes of build up and explaining to do in just 20+ remaining episodes, expect a lot of information and quick from here on out. Look at the start of this season for goddness sakes. In three weeks we Charles Widmore was on the Island at a young age, Elly Hawking is Faraday's Mom, Jack's Dad is Jacob, Time-travel 101, Rousseau encountered Jin and did kill here crew in 1988 on and on and on. Imagine if we got all those reveals in a month is season three...we'd have lost it. We got excited when we found a station or some ambiguous map back then.

Good show Lost writers, creators and actors my favorite and strong as ever.

[ebonX]

Finally! I got some time to read the LOSTcast comments ...

Jin's Ring -- I think it will be shown that Ben convinces Locke that the only way to get everyone (especially Sun) back to the Island is for Locke to kill himself (hence the hanging) and give Jin's ring to Ben, so that he can convince Sun to come back to the Island ... (1) Locke will not break his promise to Jin, but the loophole in that promise is to give the ring to Ben and have him convince Sun (Ex. Widmore using Keamy to kill "Alex", thus Widmore is still abiding by the "Rules") ... (2) Ben cannot kill Locke, as it is against the "Rules" (Ex. John not killing 50s Widmore) and so the only way for John to die is to commit suicide.

[ebonX]

@Erig -- I like your idea that DHARMA discovers the FDW by following rope that Sawyer was holding onto during that flash, but that is assuming that when they end up is pre-DHARMA. I just re-watched that scene and I think they may be back in the Island present (~January 2005).

@Mark B -- I agree with you that I think Locke gave Ben Jin's ring, but just in a slightly different way (see my previous post).

@Mike -- Elektra Complex anyone? ... ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electra_complex

@Jackie -- I do not think Christian is Jacob or a manifistation or whatever ... I will explain in my next post (see below)

[Megan]

@ ebonx, interesting theory that Locke gave it to Ben, but i'm not sure how Ben would convince him, especially after what Christian Shepherd said about Ben right before Locke left the island.

interesting practical question - when Ben left the island he was prepared, he had passports and money. locke has nothing - what's he going to do?

[Mark B]

Regarding Locke fixing the Donkey Wheel to stop the flashes. My asumption was that the island would return to the time at which Ben broke it.

However, this would leave us with 3 years to run on the island before the O6 return so I'm assuming purely by chance (maybe that's why Juliet said "What are the odds of blah blah") that the wheel sends Locke to a time a year or two after the O6 arrived and the island to the same time. The issues here are where does the wheel send Locke and how does he get to LA ?

Good job we've got another 29 hours or so to go !

Shame we missed the Alex kidnap. I assume we are done with Rousseau for now as the time jumping has stopped and the Left Behinders need to be approx in the post first jump timeframe.

[Andrew]

Why does Jin's ring convince Sun that he is alive? Especially given the fact that Jin gives it to John to show Sun "proof" he is dead. PS. I Love Sun's new demeanor.

[ebonX]

@Megan -- I agree that it will be an interesting moral dilemma for Locke, but I think, in the end, Ben will convince Locke that it is the only way to get everyone back to the Island ... My crazy theory about where the Island "drops" Locke is near Uluru (in the Australian Outback) and then he makes his way back to the States with the help from either Richard Malkin or Isaac.

[ebonX]

Has it been proven that Locke fixing the FDW will stop the Losties from flashing? ... My thinking is no is does not. However, I think it will stop the Losties suffering from temporal displacement.

[Mark B]

@Mike in the box : Lie your Daneil is Charlottes Dad theory. Only probem is why would she remember "a scary man" and not remember him as being her Dad. Disoriented ?

@ebonX : I think the FDW rocking like it was off it's axis meant that it was able to for want of better words "free wheel" every now and again and that caused the island to jump in time every time it moved of it's own accord. Locke putting back on it's axis means that it can't move until someone turns it. The catch here is why did Locke jump that last time ? I think he jumped as he moved the wheel getting back on it's axis. So that Losties will have jumped one final time to whenever ..... but I bet it's close to the time it is now with the O6. If it is way ahead or behind we'll never see the O6 and the Losties together unless someone turns the wheel again.

[ebonX]

CRAZY THEORY - "This has all happened before and it will happen again!"

Theory Primer -- I think that the reason for the Losties flashing on the Island is due to

the fact that the O6 are off-Island and Locke "fixing" the FDW only saves the Losties from

dying from temporal displacement, but will not stop the Losties from flashing.

"Who is Jacob?" -- I think Jacob is the sole survivor of the last group to turn the FDW (ala

the flashing Losties) ... I think he is still flashing because part of his group are still

off-Island (Widmore, Ellie, etc.).

"Who turned the Frozen Donkey Wheel?" -- I think that Widmore mistakenly turned the FDW (ala

Ben) in an attempt to rid themselves of DHARMA ... Then Christian Shephard "fixed" the FDW

(ala Locke)

"Oceanic 815 Crash" -- The crash brings a dead Christian back to the Island in an attempt to

resolve Jacob's problem, but things will not be fixed until everyone of Jacob's group return

to the ISland.

"The O6 Return" -- Assuming that some of the O6 (& Desmond) return via an Ajira Airlines

crash (with dead Locke in-tow).

"The Endgame" -- The Losties will still be flashing on the Island and will need help from Locke (ala Obi Wan's ghost) & Desmond (who will not flash because he is the "Wildcard") to get the remainder of the O6 to return to the Island.

[Joop©]

Hey all you theory hounds!
It's good to see the wheels turning again.

@ Mike in the Box
Well done sir, I had not made those "Christ figure" parallels, I've heard the story about the well of course, but not that it was known as "Jacob's well".
Next weeks episode "316" most likely refers to a bearing, but one can't ignore the "...whosoever believeth in him shall not perish..." part of John 3:16

[lburf]

Does Faraday possess the same ageless qualities as Richard Alpert? Or is he just traveling through time?

http://twitter.com/lburf

[Chris]

My thoughts

Christian isn't jacob. The island is using those who died to direct people. Christian came to the island pre dead thus the first to be used and sorta the right hand man of the island, and nothing more.

I am still of the belief that Locke is Jacob. If they are bringing a dead body to the island, and as we can tell from christian the dead can't seem to physically interact with the living, i would suspect they are going to do something with lockes body to actually bring him back but this process screws up or becomes uncompleted leaving him stuck out of time or something. Not sure but i am sticking with Locke.

The wheel turn. I would assume the final wheel turn will send the losties back to the DHARMA days. To the point of time where Dan warns Charlot and helps build the hatch while undercover.

The Island will probably move 1 more time when Charles Whidmore tuns the wheel sending the island into the present day to pick up the 6 and kicking him off the island. This will also unstick Horus (the guy who told Locke to get the house blueprint from his dead body and had the nose bleed) along with others.

My question from this episode

Well Danielle's group's "sickness" seems to be that they have become aware of the islands goals and abilities. assuming the french guys were then acting on the islands behalf why would the island want to kill her? could it be what she does when she crosses ben?

[Erig]

Guys, why are you all guessing it's post 2005 on the island now? We already know Faraday ends of sneaking into the Orchid and also tells Charlotte not to come back to the island during the time of DHARMA being on the island. If anything that final jump put them sometime in the 70s or 80s. That's my guess, at least.

[Chris]

As a side note I feel really bad for Locke. Kidney Stolen, Pushed out a window and crippled, shot several times, legs shattered, dies. That guy has taken so much physical abuse even patchy would say damn i quit. I hope something good comes to him.

I does seem the island respects him though, and not to fond of Ben.

[daviboy]

I don't think Locke is dead. I think is heavily sedated to the point that he looks dead. Remember Romeo and Juliet? I don't think Jacob would like it if Ben had killed Locke. Ben is wanting to get back in Jacob's good graces. Look how long Sayid was knocked out from the tranquilizer darts. This is just an assumption though.

Also I wanted to bring back something from the first season that I just remembered. Since the island has been flashing so much I wonder if the "bright light" that Locke saw in the first season was somehow related to the flashes we're seeing now? I know it was supposedly the smoke monster but what if the bright light was something else involving time travel? Just a thought...I know it probably doesn't mean anything. Just thought I would throw that one out there.

[biolite]

@Mike in the box
I’m pretty sure Daniel said he was “In love” with Charlotte. That’s probably not a sign that they have a father/daughter relationship. Not a healthy one anyway. Add to that she would have recognized him as her father, not a crazy person as mentioned by @Mark B.

Jacob: This is still pretty weird. It seems that Jacob is Jack’s father, but why? Most of the apparitions seen on the island (horse, Eko’s brother, etc) were seen by people who had previously encountered that person or animal. Has Locke met Jack’s father before? Jack’s father said “say hello to my son” as Locke disappeared at the wheel…that implies that he IS Christian Sheppard, and not something posing as Christian Sheppard.

It’s been a while, but from my recollection the others are not immune to the smoke monster. When Ben was running the others, and they lived in the Dharma houses, they stayed behind the sonic fence. The smoke monster chased Juliette so there’s a pretty good sign the smoke monster doesn’t like the others. On one of the visits to the cabin we find a ring of salt or something around the cabin as a ward. Is this to keep Jacob safe from the smoke monster? I wonder if the original group of people on the island, the Temple people (Adam & Eve) built the smoke monster as the island protector, then either died or were killed off later. The others arrived after that and assumed control of the island, but were vulnerable to smokey? I like @Chris’ theory that Locke is Jacob, or is becoming the new Jacob. If Sheppard was a member of the original others that became Jacob, it’s possible that with the arrival of the Losties, Locke will become the new Jacob. Then, in the future, when the Indian plane crashes, we’ll have new Losties, our current Losties will be the new others with Locke as their Jacob ;-)

Rousseau: My interpretation was: The people that went down into the hole obviously survived, and learned something, but were gone for a little while (The arm had decayed somewhat). They came back and were talking about the temple and the guardian and to Danielle they sounded different. She was pretty freaked out before, now she’s downright paranoid. She imagined the sickness and shot the people she thought carried it. I think the sickness was all in her head. Add the pregnancy hormones and she’s downright crazy :-P

[ebonX]

@Chris -- I agree that Christian is NOT Jacob, but then why would Jacob use Christian as his proxy when dealing with Locke ... Why not use Boone or Eko or any other number of dead people on the Island? I just think your "First Come, First Serve" justification is rather thin and arbitrary.

I like your theory that Locke is Jacob ... I don't think it's right, but I like it! ... :)

There are some points that would seem to invalidate this idea ... (1) If Locke is Jacob, then how does Alpert know of Jacob in 1954, but not the concept of flashing on the Island ... (2) If Jacob cannot talk to Locke directly (as that would be talking to himself, and thus possibly create a paradox) and thus uses Christian as his proxy, then why does Jacob appear to Locke directly and ask for his help in S3 TMBTC?

I really like your theory that the next person we see turn the FDW will be Widmore (in DHARMA days, which will return the Losties to the "present"), even though it invalidates my previous theory ... :P

[ebonX]

@Chris -- Yeah, I feel bad for Locke too, especially since, in the end, I think he will be shown to simply be keeping the throne warm for the true leader of the Others, Jack.

[Chris]

@ebonX

S3 TMBTC is actually what started my thinking that Locke is Jacob. If you remember after Locke heard "help me" he turned on the light and the shack started shaking. We were lead to believe from Ben that Jacob hates technology and that's why the shaking. I prefer to think that is due to that (whatever effect) that waxman was talking about from the secret orchid video released over the summer.

If jacob is locke and he somewhat materialized in at that moment that puts 2 lockes in 1 place at the same time which would create that force that waxman worried about with the rabbits and could be what shook the room.

Another point that made me think locke is jacob was when ben took locke to the pit of bodies. ben told locke something along the lines of "i carried it out but i'm not the one who gave the order" and it was something in his look and how he said itthat makes me think locke is the one that gave ben that order, and as we pseudo know ben gets his orders from jacob suggesting locke could be jacob. I know that is a bit looser of a theory, but its mine.

plus locke has been known by a fake name once before to get things done (jeremy benthum) why not again.

[frankmorris]

Locke as Jacob sounds good to me. The cabin scene compared with the Orchid video is interesting.
Christian Shepherd is consistent with the other apparitions which for whatever reason seem very personal:
"Say hello to my son"
"I am dead but I'm also here"
"Libby says hi"
but then there's "you talk to me as if I was your brother" which would imply a single source of deception for all.
I don't think it's Jacob though.

[Nik]

it's pretty clear to me that Christian Sheppard isn't Jacob. To me it doesn't make any sense and doesn't strike me as something the writers would do.

However, I do believe that Christian's carcass is somehow being manipulated by Jacob

@ Whoever wondered why Jacob wouldn't use Boone or Eko:

I think it would actually be harder for Locke to accept what 'Jacob' was saying through Boone or Eko because he does recognize them. It's less confusing to use someone he has no familiarity with.

[ebonX]

@Chris -- Good point relating the cabin shake & the Orchid video! I call that effect the "Timecop Effect".

@frankmorris -- I would argue that Christian Shephard appearing to Locke as an apparition is inconsistent with the other examples ... Christian never met or knew Locke (as far as we know in the LOST mythology thus far).

@Nik -- Why would it be easier to accept that a complete stranger is Jacob's proxy, rather than someone he already knew (who was dead)?

[Mark B]

I'm starting to like the Widmore the younger turning the FDW so that the Losties don't have to be in the time period around when the O6 left they could be in the Dharma days. However I stick to the idea that it is the wheel wobbling causing the time trips. Unless Locke screwed up again then that should have stopped. But I think Locke thinks that the O6 need to be back to stop it bt Daniel said he doubted that (when talking to Charlotte).

I guess the Left Behinders are most likely in the time when Faraday was seen in the Orchid. When was that ? Later than the 1950's I'd guess but pre-Goodspeeds ?

Hopefully still time to see the incident and how Chang/Waxman/Candle lost his arm.

[Nik]

@ ebonX

I just think if he saw Boone or Eko he would see it more as a vision or coming back from the dead than someone he doesn't recognize giving him instructions. Then again, I suppose all Boone or Eko would've had to say was "I'm Jacob's proxy". Can't really explain it further than that, it's just what I think.

[Andrew]

Question: Is what we see with Juliet, Locke Sawyer etc 3 years before what we are seeing with Jack, Kate, and gang? If so does that mean Sawyer and Juliet' noses are bleeding for 3 years worth of jumping? ... I know this is a probably a simple question but I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.

[Mark B]

@Andrew

The Left Behinders started jumping when the O6 left and have been jumping since. But I think in "real" time the O6 have only left a few days ago.

However remember the Left Behinders are jumping forward and backwards in time so they could be way in the past then in the future. So they could easily catch up with the O6 in a flash (pun intended)

One discussion point here is where are the Left Behinders are now (in time) and if they are not at the time the O6 are how will they get there.

The best theory I have heard at the moment is that the Left Behinders are in Dharma Days (1970's) and we'll see the incident and then for some reason young Widmore (who is actually from the 50's which kind of blows the theory a bit and remember he is an Other -- unless post-purge the wheel is turned to hide the island) will turn the frozen donkey wheel and send the Left Behinders to O6 time.

Of course they could still jump in time around despite the frozen donkey wheel being fixed.

Also not to be forgetten is that Locke thinks the O6 need to come back to save them so that suggests the Left Behinders keep up the nose bleeds/temporal shifts/time jumping until the O6 retuen.

Hope that helps.

[MisterMingo]

Okay, now I normally hate the "JACOB IS LOCKE IN A WIG" style theories, but...

If you listen closely to the voice of the transmission of the Numbers on the French team's radio, it sounds a LOT like Hurley. Now I won't say it IS him, or that it's even Jorge Garcia, but it does sound a hell of a lot like him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFiT3nUSh3o

But if it IS him, I think perhaps when Faraday goes back to the Dharma era of the island, Hurley does as well. He somehow gets caught up in the Valenzetti Equasion experiments and it's his voice that gets transmitted. This leads Leonard to the island and, in turn, Hurley as well. So it's Hurley's own transmission that gets him caught up in the Numbers.

I can't really see any errors in this theory. In fact, it fits perfectly with the rules they've set up. And the 815ers never hear this message because Danielle replaces it with her own message.

What do you guys think?

[Bryguy]

I haven't seen the translation of Charlotte's outburst in Korean anywhere. What did she say to Jin?

[Waiting For Lost]

@MisterMingo .... That's funny a freind of mine swears it's Daniels voice.

@Bryguy ..... me neither, but I guess it's the same as she says in English right after.

[Wraith]

I dont know why nobody suggests that Christian may not be dead. I know what the creators have said in their own podcasts and interviews, but it makes sense to me that dead OFF island may not be dead ON island. This also leads right into Locke coming back to life when he gets back to the island.

Just my 2 cents.

[Slickster282]

Ok my theory on the ring, Locke told Ben about how he had promised Jin not to persuade her to come back to the island and 'uses' Ben to help the island by giving him the ring and dying himself.... hmmm.... Could someone poke holes in this theory as im usually completly wrong with all my little theorys!

[Wraith]

Why does Jin's ring convince Sun that he is alive? Especially given the fact that Jin gives it to John to show Sun "proof" he is dead. PS. I Love Sun's new demeanor.

Its proof because if he died in an explosion on the boat, there would be no way for anyone to have that ring. It would have sunk to the bottom of the ocean with all of the small chunks of blown up Jin.

[connor]

UK listener here, hoping the podcast is out before I go to bed!

[Andrew]

Thanks Mark and Wraith for your responses. That totally makes sense about Jin's ring. As for the time jumping I guess like everything else I'll just have to be patient for the offical answer.