LOSTCasts 76: Namaste

This podcast focuses on season 5, episode 9 of LOST, Namaste. Join John and Matt, as we discuss the time differences between our two groups of Losties, the swan station, creepy Ben as a kid, Christian and Sun.

Download podcast #76 here

Links related to the podcast:
Lostpedia entry for Namaste
Screencap of swan model and blueprint
Screencap of creepy Ben as a kid
Screencap of Christian and Sun, with third person in background

We'll be back with another podcast on April 12th! Until then, Stay LOST!

Comments

[connor]

Awesome guys, keep it up

Did anyone notice Charlotte in the background when Sun was talking to Christian? Has Faraday changed the future?

[Florian]

Wow....! I just asked me, how about a new Podcast... and, Dudes, you are awsome!

from Germany,

...stay LOST:

Florian

[Eric from Double Feature]

Glad to hear about the honeymoon, congrats. If you guys feel like putting out a show or two over the next few weeks, I would be more than happy to put it together. There's a contact page on my podcast's site, send me an email. DoubleFeatureShow.com

[Steven]

wow thanks!!

Sorry about the last comment I made, I was just messing :)

hope you rocked the casbah on your honeymoon ;)

[Crystal]

I'll miss you guys while you're on hiatus. I always look forward to the podcast.

One note Juliette had an affair with Goodwin (killed by Ana Lucia), not Ethan. Ethan was at Juliette's sister's apartment building and later seen at the hospital where she worked, but they had not relationship.

[Rebecca]

I hope you have a fantastic wedding and honeymoon! Congrats!

just one little comment - i got a HUGE laugh when Jack was assigned to be a janitor and i immediately thought that was Sawyers doing. Didnt he and Julia put jack, hurley and kates name on the list as well as why they are there? anyways if it was Saywers doing then I LOVING it :)

thanks again for a terrific Podcast! I am not officially addicted and cant wait until April 12th when you are back :)

[Rebecca]

sorry - to correct last post - i am NOW officially addicted! :)

[Chris]

I have had an issue with lost for a while and a co-worker and i were discussing it and i thought i would share it. WWW Where Was Widmore?

Now Widmore seems to be watching the 6 from the island just as closely as Ben was. You can't tell me that with Widmores resources that he wasn't able to know that all 5 of the oceanic 6 (yes i know that sounded stupid) plus Ben and Locks body had a ticket for the same flight.

Widmore had to know this was going to bring them to the island. Why wasn't Widmore on that flight?

[nimbuscrenel]

2 things:
Why do you pronounce ruse as "roose"?

and secondly, Juliet never slept with Ethan... she was with Goodwin.

[DocWaxman]

Screen cap links above are broken or otherwise not available. SledgeWeb still happens to have all those images online (as of this writing). Here's the general link; just click the secondary "continue reading" links once on the site for each picture(s):

http://lost.cubit.net/

There's even a quick video embedded of the scene with Sun where the mystery background person appears. Also, Lostpedia [ http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ben ] has a decent cap of young Bug-Eyes; 4th picture down. And the Trivia section in Lostpedia's "Namaste" entry (link at top) features a pic of Sun & the blonde backgrounder.

Waxman

[BBax]

My wife and I got the impression that Ben wasn't able to go to 1977 because he was already there as a kid, and couldn't be in the same time/place as 2 different ages.

If that were so, maybe Sun is Pierre Chang's kid from the season premier? And Paik adopted her?

Not sure what that would mean for Lapidus though...

[Chris]

Crazy Theory Warning

I think that the "Others" and "DHARMA" unknowingly both work for mutual and yet to be seen 3rd group of people. Alpert and probably Waxmen are the only 2 on the island that are aware of this.

The 3rd group is known as Jacob. Hawking and Widmore are probably members of this 3rd group.

[Matt]

Have you guys ever tried using something like The Levelator to balance the volume levels in your podcasts? The three of you have very different volumes, and it makes it difficult to listen - I turn it up to hear Robert, and my speakers get blown out when Matt laughs :P

Give it a try...I think it'll help you guys out.

http://www.conversationsnetwork.org/levelator

[nn]

John should start the "Intresting Nod podcast"!

Jokes aside: thanks for your great podcasts!

[Mark B]

One thing I thought of ... if Ben knew about the plane crash in 2007 then what else does he know. Is this going to turn into the what Ben knows show ?

If he did know then how ? Did Jacob tell him ? In which case anything is possible. That would be a huge Deus Ex Machina.

D&C : "Writers we need an out"
Writers : "We'll use Jacob".

Hope they don't go doen that road ....

Other than that only kind of liked the episode. It was only OK not good not bad, just OK.

[Jocelyn]

When I went to listen to LostCast #76 instead I got #75. Everyone else doesn't seem to have that issue. Any ideas?

[Kristi]

Anyone else having trouble downloading? iTunes couldn't find it, and now the link here seems to not be working either. Can someone repost? Thanks!!

[LostinLindenhurst]

Will miss u during your hiatus - hope the wedding goes well and enjoy your honeymoon. Thanks for all the work on the podcasts!!

[Jes']

The question came up during the 'cast regarding Ben's age. Here is my math:

The Purge: December 19, 1992

Ben: born ? (my guess: 1965)

Ethan: born 1977, 15 (one of THE NUMBERS) at the time of the Purge. Died in 2004, at the age of 27.

Ben came to Sayid while in his cell (in 1977). Looked about 12. Would've been 27(!) at the time of the Purge.

In the present (2007), Ben would be 45.

Can we get someone to challenge this theory? I want to know what you think.

[alpha]

ehh I think the girl looks more like Libby but who knows!

[Chad]

So Sarah, Jacks ex, was also in Happy Gilmore. Saw it today and realized Virginia Bennett is also Sarah. I know this adds nothing to the show but hey, I thought it was cool.

[Mike in the Box]

Since the guys are not going to be casting for the next couple of weeks, I suggest that we do the leg work (check out the Fuselage and the Numbers forums) and post the results of our research. There are several great resources out there. Let's have an in depth discussion of the themes, reveals, characters, and references in typed form.

[Gaia]

I just want to say I LOVE YOUR PODCAST. I have been listing for over a year, and the LOST community is what makes the show so enjoyable for me.

That being said, I thought Namaste was one of the best episodes all seasons. Fast-paced, lots of reveals, character development. All the good stuff. So you guys need to get your energy back up and keep up with the great work. Stay Lost.

[Bored at Work]

Sorry if I missed someone addressing this somewhere....

If Locke stopped the flashes when he turned the wheel, what caused the flash that sent Jack and the rest to the 70's? Was this ever addressed in the show?

[Swear it's Matt]

Sorry about the Ethan/Goodwin mix up. I hate missing basic plot points.

I'm such a peedot.

[Mark B]

@Swear it's Matt
We'll forgive you .... as long as you do a podcast for the next two weeks 8-)

@John
Have a great wedding, honeymoon etc and so on

[Jenn J]

Good (not great) episode last night. Soooo I really don't believe Ben dies. "What ever happened, happened" I think Sayid shooting Ben as a child has a lot to do with who Ben becomes as an adult.

[Chris]

Well Ben has to live, because he is alive. The question is how? I looked several times at where he was shot. That is a kill looking shot if ever seen one. got the lung and most likely the heart.

The thing that kinda found odd was it didn't look like there was any blood so we might be looking at the lucky hunk of metal situation, like a necklace or medallion just happened to deflect the bullet. or possibly he kept that book in between his shirts to read later and that stopped the bullet.

A co-worker thinks he is really going to die, but come back like locke. This works in the sense that they do seem to try to keep a lot of parallels between the two. However Ben does end up working for DHARMA as a workman and i don't think that would happen if they saw him dead for a week and then he came back to life.

This could occur if the others take him and this happens there, after which he "escapes".

[Lorne]

The island probably "isn't done with" Ben, so he'll live. However, his miraculous recovery might be what prompts Alpert to elevate him to someone who is destined to not just be an Other, but to lead the Others. By shooting Ben, he makes Ben the leader of the Others.

[lburf]

Just a thought...
Why does Richard Alpert have long hair when he talks to Ben as a child? as we have seen him before and after that time period with his usual short black hair??

[Nik]

for the sake of the show's integrity, I hope that Ben does die when Sayid shoots him and it progresses from there.

Having that happen in the last scene of the episode and having it not result in Ben Linus dying makes it sort of lame.

Well done predicting Marr & John, by the way.

[Nik]

and by Marr I mean Matt.

[Mark B]

Episode was weak, didn't do anything for me but was saved by the last 10 seconds. So Sayid has always been a hard arse even when he was a little kid. Don't know what the Holdman (?) charcter was about. Hippie dude torturer.

No way Ben is dead. They will not go down the alternate reality path. The island will save him or the bullet miraculously missed his vital organs. Ben shot by Sayid == Locke shot by Ben.

My money is on Juliet and Jack saving Ben and Juliet nursing Ben back to health. This is when Ben became infatuated with her and so we have the line from Harper about "looking just like her". Of course this would imply that the losties were back in time all along (and the writers had this all planned out).

Sayid will be the new Rousseau. Slightly mad loner on the island. Or maybe he'll join the Hostiles so we can see their side of the story.

[frankmorris]

The book is given to Sayid by a young Benjamin Linus in the episode "He's Our You" of the TV series Lost.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_separate_reality

[Scott in Philly]

I just watched "the lie" & realized the best part of this part of the season is the complete absence of the piece of luggage named Aaron!

[Mark B]

Not that I fully understand US tv veiwing figures but according to this wikipedia page;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Lost_episodes

The last two episodes have had the lowest viewer figures ever the only episodes below 10m with He's Our You getting a paltry 8.82m. That's less than half of that of the S4 season opener and practically a third of Pilot Part 1.

The highest ranked epi of S5 (season opener) would be the worst of both S1 and S2, would just make the top 10 of S3 but not even that of S4.

So are we down to the hard core fans those that simply would watch anything from the LOST crew or have people, like me, switched to alternative veiwing methods.

[Scott in Philly]

who cares what the viewer figures are? the show is in no danger of being cancelled prematurely... they know the end date and will play the show through. People who want to watch it watch it; live, DVR or on DVD. People who don't want to watch it, don't. This late in the series, what does it matter if it gets a billion viewers or 5 viewers?

I can see how the viewer figures might matter to the creators of the LOST series - but, honestly... does it really matter to any of us who watch the show, read this blog or listen to the podcast? why do members of the LOST viewing community continue to report these useless figures?

[Mark B]

@Scott in Philly

Whoa simmer down there fella. I was just a bit bored on a Monday night and was looking around at various LOST related stuff and was after all only reporting the facts.

You are of course right LOST season 6 will be made regarless of the viewing figures.

I don't know the details of the contract between D&C and ABC but I bet there are some caveats thrown in with regard to viewing figures.

If the viewing figures continue to fall are we guaranteed a primetime slot ? Could ABC shift LOST to a Monday night at 1am ?

And more importantly are D&C guaranteed a level of funding to continue making the show on such and expansive scale ? Could ABC cut funding and leave D&C making the final season on a tight bugdet which would mean goodbye to the LOST we love.

I was just pointing out that a very significant number of people have stopped watching when the LOST community in general are saying this is the best season so far.

Has LOST simply got too complex for the mainstream ?

[frankmorris]

Is there really cause for concern?
Is this an April fools joke?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/SdMgaTlcIzI/AAAAAAAAuNA/uLMuizoC_3I/s1600-h/lost_cancelled.jpg

[frankmorris]

I'm 84.23% sure it's a hoax

[Mark B]

Article is written by A Prefel ... Apre fel ... April Fool ?

[the real actual Matt....i swear]

i eat smelly eggs

[Scott in Philly]

i take back everything i said -- apparently they WILL cancel the show!

[Scott in Philly]

http://s3.freepowerboards.com/lostcastsfans/index.php

what the crap happened to the forums? I blame Robert & his penchant for erotica

[Sal Rosenberg]

Mark - you're such an internet bully...and you post way too much.

[Lostcasts Fan]

You guys do a great podcast and I really appreciate the hard work you put into it.

[waiting for lostcasts]

Anyone recomend any othe rpodcasts while the guys are on hiatus .... other than Jay and Jack and The Transmission that is ?

[MONIKA]

how about cranky fanatic - it is a bit critical, but good to listen. i also enjoy the lost initiative produced by two canadian girls.

lostcasts were my very first podcast i have ever downloaded. and still it is the best one, even after listening to hundreds of other podcasters out there:-) these guys are smart and funny which is quite a precious combination. STAY THE WAY YOU ARE!!!

[Mike in the Box]

Two weeks in a row and very little appears to be happening on this show. Don't get me wrong, I love this show. However, in last week's episode, Sayid shot young Ben in the last five minutes. That was the only important aspect of the episode. Then, in this week's episode, Hurley and Miles discuss theories of time travel, including a great reference to "Back to the Future." The only other important aspect was that Kate and Sawyer took a mortally wounded young Ben to see Richard Alpert.

[Mark B]

Re: Cranky Fanatic .... why does he watch the show at all ? Last podcast he spent over an hour essentially slagging off LOST. If I disliked the show as much as he does I'd have stopped watching.

@Mike in the Box: Mid-season cool down post full on season start and pre-season climax ? But in general I agree, last two episdoes have been less than stellar.

BTW : What happened to the people who used to post serious LOST comments here ....

[BBax]

Concerning the low viewership, it seems that TV show revenue is as much through DVD sales and online ad revenue as thru first run network advertising.

Now on to the episode... I thought that yes "He's our You" wasn't great but wasn't bad until the last jaw-dropping minute.

But "What Happened Happened" I thought was one of the best episodes of the year. Loved the fan-nod, toungue in cheek time travel discussion between Miles and Hurley. Loved Kate's off-island story. I was definitely confused by the last scene though. Wonder what Land of the Living means?

Can'w wait for Wednesday!

[elvislives]

I wanted to recommend an additional Lost podcast if anyone is interested.

http://galacticadradis.com/

These guys had been podcasting BSG, but now that that is over, they've moved on to Lost. It is a VERY FUNNY podcast. If you like a little humor mixed in with your SciFi, this podcast is for you.

[ae]

regarding the cranky fanatic podcast. I listened to the last one, and here's the problem. It's not a problem that Big O has negative opinions about some aspects of the show. The problem is, he complains that certain scenes were unnecessarily long, then whines that others were too short. In essence he's just whining for the sake of whining. If he had legitimate grievances about the episode his podcast would be more worth listening to, but crankiness for the sake of crankiness is boring.

ANyways..... I miss the Lostcasts podcast! I can't wait for a new one!

[beckmank]

Question from "Dead is Dead": Wasn't Alex kidnapped before the purge? If I remember correctly, in 2004 Alex was 16, so she would have been born about 1998. The purge happened around 1992 I think. We saw that Ben was working for Dharma when the purge occured. Yet last night, he was clearly part of the Others during the kidnapping. Was Ben working as a double agent? Dharma by day, Other by night?

[beckmank]

Sorry, one more question - can anyone explain the Rules? When Alex dies, Ben says "he broke the rules." I still didn't have a clear understanding of the rules at the end of the episode. Thanks!!

[Biolite]

@beckmank I think the implication was that Ben acted as "a double agent" for the others while Dharma was still in operation.

Dead is Dead = crazy episode for Lost fans. Near 100% confirmation that the statue is Anubis (based on the glyphs under the temple). Not sure if Matt will be pleased but it seems we're heading deeper into Egyptian territory. Also, an interesting line from Ben about "when you hear the whispers you better run the other way" I guess the whispers are just the others hiding in the trees whispering? :P

Many interesting questions from this episode: Will Ben heed the orders from smokey and NOT try to kill Locke again? What's up with Ilana and her crew? Are they one side in the upcoming war? If so who do they represent? Widmore? A new faction? Is there more to the line "what lies in the shadow of the statue?"

Very cool. Can't wait for the podcast this weekend. I hope the honeymoon wasn't wasted with cheap marital bliss when it could have been better used for Lost research ;-)

Biolite

[afan]

There is the lost lowdown:

http://thelostlowdown.blogspot.com

Just in case they take a few more weeks off.

[frankmorris]

Things I noticed while re-watching "Dead is Dead":
Locke is not present at anytime that Ben confronted the smoke monster. He leaves shortly before it arrives and returns shortly after it leaves. Also Ben fully expected the monster to meet him outside. When he tells Sun something is coming out of the jungle he has no control over, out walks Locke. Their subsequent conversation is about Ben not having control over Locke anymore.
Also, The smoke circling Ben with the passing images is similar to the scene with Dorothy in the tornado. Yet another "Wizard of Oz" reference.

[Tahir]

Dead is Dead - great episode.

Lost Hairdos and Wigs....

Once again, bad hairdos and wigs.But bad hairdos and wigs
are as much part of Lost as Jack crying in the jungle and
Lockes shiney head.I would be sad if they started using
good wigs at this point.
When the series ends next year I want the very last scene
to be someone wearing a bad wig.

[Tahir]

@elvislives

re - http://galacticadradis.com/

Great podcast.I only got into BSG about a 6 months ago and
saw seasons 1,2,3 and half of 4 in that period.the rest of
season 4 I had to download.
Good podcast - loved BSG all the way - even the ending.

I'll listen to their Lost podcast so log as they remain
spoiler free.

[connor]

Any idea if there is to be a podcast today?

[connor]

no podcast today? looking forward to a marathon episode soon!

[elvislives]

re: http://galacticadradis.com/
Hi Tahir. I think the Dradis guys accidentally dropped some spoilers in their first Lost podcast last week, but they apologized this week, and promised to be vigilantly anti-spoiler from here on out. I think it is safe now (starting with their podcast for "Dead is Dead").
Oh, and re: BSG - SSWA! I thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish.

re: Lostcasts - I miss you guys! Hope to hear from you soon!

[Steven]

Come on guys, If Obama Can do a podcast a week,
I'm sure you guys can.

[Steve]

Looks like Yoko has done her work on the honeymoon, here we are on 13th April and no podcast! Why am I not surprised?

[The Mook]

Maybe I'm missing something here, but...

Do we have a timeline problem?

The purge happened in December 1992. Widmore was banished from the island after 1992 as the Others were established in Dharmaville and had possession of the sub. Between the purge and this event, Widmore had apparently been off island several times and had fathered a child, so his banishment must have been at least 1994. We have heard at least once that Widmore has been looking for the island for 20 years. This doesn't add up.

Secondly, this would mean that either:

a) Penny was 10 when 815 crashed!

b) The child Widmore fathered is another child - Penny was already on the island...
or
c) Widmore had left the island much earlier - probably in the 70s - by other means to father Penny.

But what could these other means be?

It is implied that Charles' wanderings off-island are a result of their moving to Dharmaville and therefore by sub, and that his 'crime' was betraying the island - a bit like Locke's 'chicken in the fridge' criticism. There seems to be no suggestion that the Others can leave by any other means.

However, we know that Richard visited Locke twice in the 50s...

I'm confused - somebody help!

[Mark B]

I always assumed that Widmore left the island when he turned the FDW and that is how Ben tricked him to leaving. From what we saw Ben hardly tricked him to leave and his crimes were essentially what Ben did some years later.

Alex looked maybe four or five on the swings so the latest it could have been is 1994 maybe 95. Alex was born in Jan 89 which was pre-purge so as someone else said Ben must have been a double agent living in Dharmatown but working with the Others. So who looked after Alex whilst Ben was back in Dharmatown ?

It does appear we have an apparent timeline error or that the Hostiles had ways of leaving the island for Widmore to father Penny. Not sure how the Hostiles could leave we've not been shown anything to suggest they could come and go -- other than Alpert in the '50's which I assumed was because he was special and could do some time travel deal. Then again I suppose Widmore could have done some time travelling of his own.

I figure the writers know what they are doing and we'll see all this pan out .....

[Biolite]

Yeah, I believe Ben said that Widmore had been leaving the island for "years". I got the impression that he had been ducking out long before the purge. It's the only way Penny's age would make sense. I think the sketchiest thing, in terms of timeline, is Widmore's claim that he had been looking for the island for 20 years. He left in the 90's so...maybe he was exaggerating. I think someone mentioned this before, but Widmore is probably rounding up the years. So 20 instead of 14?

I was hoping for a podcast, but i'm not surprised. Wedding + Easter = busy weekend. Can't wait to hear it when we DO get one. The official Lost podcast is a joke compared to this one.

Oh, one other thing. When Widmore is being escorted to the sub the two guys escorting him have a weird symbol on their backs....anything we've seen before?

http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/image/fee058118f86108a38dad1d516e18474

Biolite

[hd]

i hate to say it but this will be the last time i look at this website. these guys were my favs but this site is never updated and there are much better podcasts out there now. this site is so boring. im gonig to stick with the ODI podcast from now on.

[steven]

@Biolite
We've seen that symbol before, It's on the Sub.

[BBax]

@Bolite and @steven,

That symbol also looks like a section of the Dharma logo...

[Biolite]

@steven & @BBax

Thanks, I knew that looked familiar...Dharma symbol segment...

[Starbuck]

If you dislike the Lostcasters missing the odd plot point then don't listen to the galacticadradis one. It'll drive you nuts. I quite lliked it mind .... odd sense of humour and as I didn't watch BSG I miss a lot of the 'in' jokes.

[JJ]

Ah what the heck you guys!

[James]

How did you guys lose interest?

Once upon a time, you were without a doubt the best and most comprehensive lost podcast. Now you seem to briefly phone it in, when you can be bothered.

I want my money back! :)

[Biolite]

In their defense... Life happens. People get married, have kids and podcasting about Lost stops being a priority. I can understand that, though it is sad. Lostcasts was the best compiled source of Lost information for a long time.

If this is the end of Lostcasts thanks for the great years of lostcasts. If this ISN'T the end, even better! :)

[Tahir]

@elvislives

You seen the pilot of Caprica? Its great man.Its freaking
darker than BSG.

[Tahir]

@elvislives

Caprica pilot is available.
I loved it.Its even darker than BSG.

[Steven]

Wow thanks guys, didn't know Caprica pilot got leaked.
Downloading now!!

[Chris in Fort Worth]

Yep, this was my first ever podcast to listen to, of any kind...but the passion is definitely gone. Along with J. Wood's illness, the intelligence quota for LOST commentary has dwindled for the home stretch. But honestly, these guys have been going through the motions since Season 4.

I still have huge hopes for what's to come on LOST and am ok with it changing into a more personal, subjective experience than it has been in the past what with the ARGs, meticulously researched and thought out podcasts, articles that have delved deeper into literature than most college courses and, of course, the short-lived, but momentarily magical Fan Forum.

Chris in Fort Worth

[Jackeduplockedown]

Well put Chris

Couldn't agree more.

As for the Time line error

It's a mistake unless Widmore was lying.

The Purge happened in 1992; that's a fact

The evidence was there on the day of the episode though some still doubted.

It's further confirmed as we see Widmore in charge and the Others living outside the Dharma village in 1988 when Alex is taken. And we see a 4-6 year old Alex living in Dharmaville the day Widmore is banished.

Widmore was banished after the purge; at most he'd been looking for the Island 12 years in late 2004 early 2005 when he made that comment.

So either he lied or the show's writers screwed up.

Seems like Richard decided that Widmore needed to go. I have the impression that neither Widmore or Ben could really communicate with Jacob and Locke could, Locke is the true chosen one, Widmore and Ben were impostors. They are both the bad guys and the Island is the good guy.

[Mark B]

I tend to give the Lostcasters a large amount of grace when it comes to being late, not casting etc. simply because they were the first cast I listened to. Life happens and I think perhaps the guys have not lost interest but just can't find the time. I bet that John was way busier this weekend than he originally thought he'd be.

I hold out hope for a bumper edition next Sunday to cover the missed episodes but figure I'd settle for a brief overview of previous episodes and full-on coverage of this weeks. As has been mentioned before the guys speciality was to look into those little details and all the questions. We don't get that many questions and when we do the answers come so fast it hardly seems worth the speculation.

If Lostcasts ends without some kind of 'official announcement' I'd be surprised.

If the timeline is a writer error then they doubled the error. Miles and Widmore both said he (meaning Widmore) had been looking for the island for 20 years. I can't think of any reason why the error would be repeated or how they can write themselves out of it. Furthermore how did Widmore get off the island to father Penny. He can't have used the sub -- as Penny was born pre-1992 when the Others would have first had access to the sub. The FDW seems not to be the answer as everyone would jump around in time if Widmore had turned it in the past -- and it's under a Dharma station that Widmore had no access to.... unless there is a secret entrance and turning the wheel per se does not cause the time jumps or any effect anyone would notice and it was the fact it was rocking that caused the time jumps and purple sky. Though didn't Sawyer et al jump when Locke fixed the wheel and again previously when Ben did ? Or would they count as rocking not turning ?

For what it's worth I think that the Others must have some other way off the island but the 20 year thing is a puzzle.

Perhaps when Widmore left the island he jumped back in time some way to 1984 or whatever the correct time is .... there has always been speculation (since the drugging of Juliet to get to the island) that the sub does not transport you to/from the island but you come/go by some other means.

[JJ]

@Mike in the box: just a thought, but what is or is not ultimately 'important' in an episode is classically hard to determine in this show...which makes being patient while the writers build a rich mystery that much easier.

[Capt Nanners]

ok so its been what 4 days since they said they'd have a podcast out and people think that they're done for good? go outside! ask a girl on a date! get a job!
i'm absolutely sure that these guys aren't quitting the podcast. like people have already said, "life happens". make your own lives happen!
i'm going hula hooping, learning Japanese, and reading a book today.

[lburf]

Anyone else noticed that once again we have a character with daddy issues?

[Lara]

anyone got any alternative links for the sun/christian/someone in the background thing? i missed it :/

[Biolite]

@lara: The Sun/Christian/someone thing was a mistake according to Jorge Garcia. Not sure where the original announcement is but I found out here: http://lostanswers.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-04-09T10%3A14%3A00%2B01%3A00&max-results=8

@Mark B: We know Richard can leave the island (as he visited Locke when Locke was a boy) so it is plausible that the others have a separate way off the island. The time difference is a bit sketchy. I'm guessing that's a mistake on the part of the writers and not a time travel thing, but you never know with this show.

I'm interested in the "New Team" with Bram and Ilana are involved with. "What lies in the shadow of the statue" Maybe we're now meeting the real "bad guys" of Lost.

Biolite

[Biolite]

Just thought i'd post a list of "dangling plot threads" as referenced by Damon and Carlton in the official Lost Podcast last week.

Walt, what’s the deal with him?
The Magic Box?
Claire and the psychic’s predictions
Where is Claire?
Food drops, what is the deal with them?
Adam & Eve, who are they?
Missing Kids form the tail, where did they go?
Cindy, the stewardess, where did she go?

How many of these do you think will be answered by the end of the series? ;)